The front pages after Sunak shows his resolve – politicalbetting.com
The front pages after Sunak shows his resolve – politicalbetting.com
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He should get rid of Raab and Sharp next.0
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He won't, they backed him for the leadership unlike ZahawiWhisperingOracle said:He should get rid of Raab and Sharp next.
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These kinds of indebtedness are his problem. Poking his nose into the BBC and Johnson loan issue would also have the helpful side-effect of further discrediting Johnson and adding more distance from him, but the ERG , or ex-ERG, camp don't desire that.1
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US general warns British Army no longer top-level fighting force, defence sources reveal
Rishi Sunak risks failing in his role as "wartime prime minister" unless he takes urgent action given the growing security threat posed by Vladimir Putin, it has been warned, with calls for a significant hike in spending.
https://news.sky.com/story/us-general-warns-british-army-no-longer-top-level-fighting-force-defence-sources-reveal-127983650 -
At just 76,000 strong, the British army is less than half the size it was back in 1990 and the smallest it has been since Napoleonic times.DecrepiterJohnL said:US general warns British Army no longer top-level fighting force, defence sources reveal
Rishi Sunak risks failing in his role as "wartime prime minister" unless he takes urgent action given the growing security threat posed by Vladimir Putin, it has been warned, with calls for a significant hike in spending.
https://news.sky.com/story/us-general-warns-british-army-no-longer-top-level-fighting-force-defence-sources-reveal-12798365
The force is due to shrink even further to 73,000 under current plans that will be implemented unless new money is found.
And also:-
Offering a sense of the scale of the challenge faced by the army, Royal Navy and Royal Air Force, it is understood that:
The armed forces would run out of ammunition "in a few days" if called upon to fight
The UK lacks the ability to defend its skies against the level of missile and drone strikes that Ukraine is enduring
It would take five to ten years for the army to be able to field a war-fighting division of some 25,000 to 30,000 troops backed by tanks, artillery and helicopters
Some 30% of UK forces on high readiness are reservists who are unable to mobilise within NATO timelines - "so we'd turn up under strength"
The majority of the army's fleet of armoured vehicles, including tanks, was built between 30 to 60 years ago and full replacements are not due for years
https://news.sky.com/story/us-general-warns-british-army-no-longer-top-level-fighting-force-defence-sources-reveal-127983650 -
Employers do not want to hire older workers, according to CMI research.
The CMI surveyed more than 1,000 managers working in UK businesses and public services. It found that just four out of 10 (42%) were open "to a large extent" to hiring people aged between 50 and 64.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-644417750 -
Translation: buy more hardware from us.DecrepiterJohnL said:US general warns British Army no longer top-level fighting force, defence sources reveal
Rishi Sunak risks failing in his role as "wartime prime minister" unless he takes urgent action given the growing security threat posed by Vladimir Putin, it has been warned, with calls for a significant hike in spending.
https://news.sky.com/story/us-general-warns-british-army-no-longer-top-level-fighting-force-defence-sources-reveal-127983657 -
The Rest is Politics: Rory and Al talk to former Health Secretary Alan Milburn for an hour.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3VRvXEEebYQ (or other podcast platforms)
ETA lots on health policy, some on twitter abuse and Rishi and Keir's similarities.0 -
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I don't know why a general would care about US arms sales.williamglenn said:
Translation: buy more hardware from us.DecrepiterJohnL said:US general warns British Army no longer top-level fighting force, defence sources reveal
Rishi Sunak risks failing in his role as "wartime prime minister" unless he takes urgent action given the growing security threat posed by Vladimir Putin, it has been warned, with calls for a significant hike in spending.
https://news.sky.com/story/us-general-warns-british-army-no-longer-top-level-fighting-force-defence-sources-reveal-127983650 -
Agreed: the General cares about the UK armed forced being well equipped. And he's right to be concerned about how hollowed out we are.WillG said:
I don't know why a general would care about US arms sales.williamglenn said:
Translation: buy more hardware from us.DecrepiterJohnL said:US general warns British Army no longer top-level fighting force, defence sources reveal
Rishi Sunak risks failing in his role as "wartime prime minister" unless he takes urgent action given the growing security threat posed by Vladimir Putin, it has been warned, with calls for a significant hike in spending.
https://news.sky.com/story/us-general-warns-british-army-no-longer-top-level-fighting-force-defence-sources-reveal-127983651 -
No doubt there’s some special pleading in there: but the points made are essentially correct, even if you think it’s fine to have an army much reduced in size.williamglenn said:
Translation: buy more hardware from us.DecrepiterJohnL said:US general warns British Army no longer top-level fighting force, defence sources reveal
Rishi Sunak risks failing in his role as "wartime prime minister" unless he takes urgent action given the growing security threat posed by Vladimir Putin, it has been warned, with calls for a significant hike in spending.
https://news.sky.com/story/us-general-warns-british-army-no-longer-top-level-fighting-force-defence-sources-reveal-12798365
The lack of ammunition is the most absurd, since it renders a lot of the expensive kit worthless without it, and the compete inadequacy of our air defence probably.the most worrying.
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"US general". Fucking LOL. This is just Baldy Ben or one of his thanes leaking stuff to try to get more money from the Treasury. Possible preemptive strike to stave off a cut to the army. They have put the words in the mouth of a "US general", who may or may not exist, because they think it carries more heft than just Captain Mainwaring saying it.DecrepiterJohnL said:US general warns British Army no longer top-level fighting force, defence sources reveal
Rishi Sunak risks failing in his role as "wartime prime minister" unless he takes urgent action given the growing security threat posed by Vladimir Putin, it has been warned, with calls for a significant hike in spending.
https://news.sky.com/story/us-general-warns-british-army-no-longer-top-level-fighting-force-defence-sources-reveal-127983650 -
Interesting maps showing Britain to be 18% Muslim by 2050.
https://www.reddit.com/r/MapPorn/comments/10o5vxv/0 -
We do need (laughs hollowly) another urgent defence review.rcs1000 said:
Agreed: the General cares about the UK armed forced being well equipped. And he's right to be concerned about how hollowed out we are.WillG said:
I don't know why a general would care about US arms sales.williamglenn said:
Translation: buy more hardware from us.DecrepiterJohnL said:US general warns British Army no longer top-level fighting force, defence sources reveal
Rishi Sunak risks failing in his role as "wartime prime minister" unless he takes urgent action given the growing security threat posed by Vladimir Putin, it has been warned, with calls for a significant hike in spending.
https://news.sky.com/story/us-general-warns-british-army-no-longer-top-level-fighting-force-defence-sources-reveal-12798365
There’s no way in our current economic state that the armed forces are going to get everything they want, and although the army is in a parlous state, the more urgent near term problem is that we genuinely lack the capacity to defend our airspace.0 -
Well, the possibly fictitious American general has a point after decades of cuts. The latest complaint is that Rishi is giving tanks to Ukraine without ordering new ones. Which, incidentally, is further than Ukraine's BFF Boris was prepared to go.Dura_Ace said:
"US general". Fucking LOL. This is just Baldy Ben or one of his thanes leaking stuff to try to get more money from the Treasury. Possible preemptive strike to stave off a cut to the army. They have put the words in the mouth of a "US general", who may or may not exist, because they think it carries more heft than just Captain Mainwaring saying it.DecrepiterJohnL said:US general warns British Army no longer top-level fighting force, defence sources reveal
Rishi Sunak risks failing in his role as "wartime prime minister" unless he takes urgent action given the growing security threat posed by Vladimir Putin, it has been warned, with calls for a significant hike in spending.
https://news.sky.com/story/us-general-warns-british-army-no-longer-top-level-fighting-force-defence-sources-reveal-127983650 -
I can think of a few reasons.WillG said:
I don't know why a general would care about US arms sales.williamglenn said:
Translation: buy more hardware from us.DecrepiterJohnL said:US general warns British Army no longer top-level fighting force, defence sources reveal
Rishi Sunak risks failing in his role as "wartime prime minister" unless he takes urgent action given the growing security threat posed by Vladimir Putin, it has been warned, with calls for a significant hike in spending.
https://news.sky.com/story/us-general-warns-british-army-no-longer-top-level-fighting-force-defence-sources-reveal-127983650 -
The points aren’t wrong though, are they ?Dura_Ace said:
"US general". Fucking LOL. This is just Baldy Ben or one of his thanes leaking stuff to try to get more money from the Treasury. Possible preemptive strike to stave off a cut to the army. They have put the words in the mouth of a "US general", who may or may not exist, because they think it carries more heft than just Captain Mainwaring saying it.DecrepiterJohnL said:US general warns British Army no longer top-level fighting force, defence sources reveal
Rishi Sunak risks failing in his role as "wartime prime minister" unless he takes urgent action given the growing security threat posed by Vladimir Putin, it has been warned, with calls for a significant hike in spending.
https://news.sky.com/story/us-general-warns-british-army-no-longer-top-level-fighting-force-defence-sources-reveal-127983650 -
deleted -- I'm going to bed. Goodnight PB.1
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Eh, 9.7%.WillG said:Interesting maps showing Britain to be 18% Muslim by 2050.
https://www.reddit.com/r/MapPorn/comments/10o5vxv/
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It's 17.2% in the high migration scenario.Taz said:
Eh, 9.7%.WillG said:Interesting maps showing Britain to be 18% Muslim by 2050.
https://www.reddit.com/r/MapPorn/comments/10o5vxv/
Albeit that scenario requires massively more Muslim migration than is currently the case.0 -
It seems the armed forces are another public service on which we spend more and more to get less and less. Russia is not a conventional threat to us as has been shown in the Ukraine where their army is being destroyed. It is not easy to see what the conventional threat is at the moment.
The real question for defence is do we want to try and play in the Pacific. If we do the carriers should be the major focus of our defence efforts. They are not capable of being deployed without a lot of support from the US right now. Do we want to try and address that?-1 -
Hardly a surprise. The workplace discriminates against older workers. It’s an acceptable prejudice. How Hunt overcomes this remains to be seen.DecrepiterJohnL said:Employers do not want to hire older workers, according to CMI research.
The CMI surveyed more than 1,000 managers working in UK businesses and public services. It found that just four out of 10 (42%) were open "to a large extent" to hiring people aged between 50 and 64.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-644417750 -
Thanks.rcs1000 said:
It's 17.2% in the high migration scenario.Taz said:
Eh, 9.7%.WillG said:Interesting maps showing Britain to be 18% Muslim by 2050.
https://www.reddit.com/r/MapPorn/comments/10o5vxv/
Albeit that scenario requires massively more Muslim migration than is currently the case.
So I’d say pretty unlikely in that case but I’d also say no big deal,either way.0 -
If I may play devil's advocate for a moment, then I'd say that now may be exactly the *wrong* time to be ordering tanks for our own use. What we may be seeing in Ukraine is the first 'proper' tank battles between militaries equipped with very modern weapons. How the Ch2, Abrams, Leo2s and all the ex-Soviet tanks behave in the next year, and the tactics developed to effectively use, and defeat, them, should be fed into any new designs. And yes, that might mean Ch3 is dead.DecrepiterJohnL said:
Well, the possibly fictitious American general has a point after decades of cuts. The latest complaint is that Rishi is giving tanks to Ukraine without ordering new ones. Which, incidentally, is further than Ukraine's BFF Boris was prepared to go.Dura_Ace said:
"US general". Fucking LOL. This is just Baldy Ben or one of his thanes leaking stuff to try to get more money from the Treasury. Possible preemptive strike to stave off a cut to the army. They have put the words in the mouth of a "US general", who may or may not exist, because they think it carries more heft than just Captain Mainwaring saying it.DecrepiterJohnL said:US general warns British Army no longer top-level fighting force, defence sources reveal
Rishi Sunak risks failing in his role as "wartime prime minister" unless he takes urgent action given the growing security threat posed by Vladimir Putin, it has been warned, with calls for a significant hike in spending.
https://news.sky.com/story/us-general-warns-british-army-no-longer-top-level-fighting-force-defence-sources-reveal-12798365
A decent military will be looking at this, and working out how tanks can be made more effective and survivable on the modern battlefield. As an example (which was already know to a small extent), putting your ammo stores in a bustle is better than in the turret.
Yes, this would mean a delay in obtaining new tanks, but the Ch3 project has been so laggardly that another delay - actually with a good reason this time - is excusable.0 -
Only just seen this, from yesterday's Sunday Times.
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Is that thing next to the pizza a tin of pineapple?TheScreamingEagles said:Only just seen this, from yesterday's Sunday Times.
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The test will be whether tanks remain a mainstay of battlefield operations or not. That will depend on how western tanks cope with modern drones and hand held anti tank systems. Russian tanks did not cope with the latter at all, hence the defeat of their drive to Kyiv at the start of the war. And drones have developed massively since then, providing ever more fire power at a few percent of the cost of a MBT.JosiasJessop said:
If I may play devil's advocate for a moment, then I'd say that now may be exactly the *wrong* time to be ordering tanks for our own use. What we may be seeing in Ukraine is the first 'proper' tank battles between militaries equipped with very modern weapons. How the Ch2, Abrams, Leo2s and all the ex-Soviet tanks behave in the next year, and the tactics developed to effectively use, and defeat, them, should be fed into any new designs. And yes, that might mean Ch3 is dead.DecrepiterJohnL said:
Well, the possibly fictitious American general has a point after decades of cuts. The latest complaint is that Rishi is giving tanks to Ukraine without ordering new ones. Which, incidentally, is further than Ukraine's BFF Boris was prepared to go.Dura_Ace said:
"US general". Fucking LOL. This is just Baldy Ben or one of his thanes leaking stuff to try to get more money from the Treasury. Possible preemptive strike to stave off a cut to the army. They have put the words in the mouth of a "US general", who may or may not exist, because they think it carries more heft than just Captain Mainwaring saying it.DecrepiterJohnL said:US general warns British Army no longer top-level fighting force, defence sources reveal
Rishi Sunak risks failing in his role as "wartime prime minister" unless he takes urgent action given the growing security threat posed by Vladimir Putin, it has been warned, with calls for a significant hike in spending.
https://news.sky.com/story/us-general-warns-british-army-no-longer-top-level-fighting-force-defence-sources-reveal-12798365
A decent military will be looking at this, and working out how tanks can be made more effective and survivable on the modern battlefield. As an example (which was already know to a small extent), putting your ammo stores in a bustle is better than in the turret.
Yes, this would mean a delay in obtaining new tanks, but the Ch3 project has been so laggardly that another delay - actually with a good reason this time - is excusable.0 -
Not been a good few days for papers called The Daily Telegraph.
I'm sure the PBers who fell for this bullshit will be eager to apologise to the Sussexes.
https://www.theage.com.au/national/tele-s-mandela-hit-on-meghan-and-harry-backfires-20230129-p5cg8g.html0 -
Great policy for the criminally neglected middle classes.
The government should give middle-class drivers incentives to buy a second-hand electric car if climate targets are to be met, experts say.
Demand for used electric vehicles is falling as electricity prices have risen, and the price of used electric cars, particularly luxury models, has fallen. The average price of a used Jaguar I-pace has fallen 14.6 per cent in a year, and the Tesla Model X is down 12.1 per cent.
Cheaper models such as the Nissan Leaf have not fallen as far, by only 1.6 per cent. The price of the two-seater Smart ForTwo has fallen by 1.3 per cent.
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/give-middle-classes-help-to-buy-a-used-electric-car-say-experts-slnpc537n0 -
More communism from this leftist government, no wonder Michael Foot and Corbyn were in favour of leaving the EC.
Michael Gove has pledged to bring forward laws to scrap most “feudal” leaseholds in England this year.
Ministers are preparing to ditch rules that bar flat owners from buying the freehold to their property if a small part of their building is given over to commercial use, such as shops.
The government will also make it much easier for leaseholders in flats to take over their buildings and bring them into common ownership to avoid extortionate management fees and ground rents.
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/michael-gove-vows-to-scrap-feudal-leasehold-system-this-year-920srddc62 -
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So if lots more come in, we'll have lots more ?rcs1000 said:
It's 17.2% in the high migration scenario.Taz said:
Eh, 9.7%.WillG said:Interesting maps showing Britain to be 18% Muslim by 2050.
https://www.reddit.com/r/MapPorn/comments/10o5vxv/
Albeit that scenario requires massively more Muslim migration than is currently the case.
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A few weeks ago Tesla cut its new retail prices due to slowing sales. Apparently those who bought at the old price the week before are annoyed at getting no rebate.TheScreamingEagles said:Great policy for the criminally neglected middle classes.
The government should give middle-class drivers incentives to buy a second-hand electric car if climate targets are to be met, experts say.
Demand for used electric vehicles is falling as electricity prices have risen, and the price of used electric cars, particularly luxury models, has fallen. The average price of a used Jaguar I-pace has fallen 14.6 per cent in a year, and the Tesla Model X is down 12.1 per cent.
Cheaper models such as the Nissan Leaf have not fallen as far, by only 1.6 per cent. The price of the two-seater Smart ForTwo has fallen by 1.3 per cent.
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/give-middle-classes-help-to-buy-a-used-electric-car-say-experts-slnpc537n
https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2023/jan/13/tesla-prices-us-europe-slowing-demand-elon-musk0 -
Sunak did the right thing, once he had exhausted every possible alternative.3
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On the surface, that's odd. After all, Rishi was a Leaver before it was cool and for sincere reasons. Boris was later to the party and not as convincing.HYUFD said:
Voters overall prefer Sunak to Johnson 37% to 34%, and Remain voters prefer Sunak too.nico679 said:Apparently Tory voters by 49% to 37% want the fat lying oaf back as PM . Really these people should be sterilized so they can’t add more idiocy to the UK gene pool !
2019 Conservative voters though yes and Leave voters still prefer Johnson to Sunak
https://twitter.com/TLDRNewsUK/status/1619741991407095809?s=20&t=VuysHzejZDpfxJVvGEXRyw
There' must be something else going on (see also Leaver's attributes to Truss vs. Sunak). Something about confidence and brio? Sunak comes across as a bit diffident, a bit dweeby, and that's a Remain state of mind...0 -
Brexit hasn't impacted on immigration numbers but has shifted the origins of the migrants. We get more from MENA and South Asia now. Our Greek doctors are being replaced by Egyptians.Nigelb said:.
So if lots more come in, we'll have lots more ?rcs1000 said:
It's 17.2% in the high migration scenario.Taz said:
Eh, 9.7%.WillG said:Interesting maps showing Britain to be 18% Muslim by 2050.
https://www.reddit.com/r/MapPorn/comments/10o5vxv/
Albeit that scenario requires massively more Muslim migration than is currently the case.
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How could it be otherwise? When push comes to shove, the jobs still need to be done.Foxy said:
Brexit hasn't impacted on immigration numbers but has shifted the origins of the migrants. We get more from MENA and South Asia now. Our Greek doctors are being replaced by Egyptians.Nigelb said:.
So if lots more come in, we'll have lots more ?rcs1000 said:
It's 17.2% in the high migration scenario.Taz said:
Eh, 9.7%.WillG said:Interesting maps showing Britain to be 18% Muslim by 2050.
https://www.reddit.com/r/MapPorn/comments/10o5vxv/
Albeit that scenario requires massively more Muslim migration than is currently the case.
Remarkable.0 -
As it probably should be.JosiasJessop said:
If I may play devil's advocate for a moment, then I'd say that now may be exactly the *wrong* time to be ordering tanks for our own use. What we may be seeing in Ukraine is the first 'proper' tank battles between militaries equipped with very modern weapons. How the Ch2, Abrams, Leo2s and all the ex-Soviet tanks behave in the next year, and the tactics developed to effectively use, and defeat, them, should be fed into any new designs. And yes, that might mean Ch3 is dead...DecrepiterJohnL said:
Well, the possibly fictitious American general has a point after decades of cuts. The latest complaint is that Rishi is giving tanks to Ukraine without ordering new ones. Which, incidentally, is further than Ukraine's BFF Boris was prepared to go.Dura_Ace said:
"US general". Fucking LOL. This is just Baldy Ben or one of his thanes leaking stuff to try to get more money from the Treasury. Possible preemptive strike to stave off a cut to the army. They have put the words in the mouth of a "US general", who may or may not exist, because they think it carries more heft than just Captain Mainwaring saying it.DecrepiterJohnL said:US general warns British Army no longer top-level fighting force, defence sources reveal
Rishi Sunak risks failing in his role as "wartime prime minister" unless he takes urgent action given the growing security threat posed by Vladimir Putin, it has been warned, with calls for a significant hike in spending.
https://news.sky.com/story/us-general-warns-british-army-no-longer-top-level-fighting-force-defence-sources-reveal-12798365
Of all the future scenarios we can imagine, the UK fighting tanks battles is one if the more remote ones.
And if it's a question if supporting allies, we'd be more useful if we fielded the same kit.
We long since abandoned any claim to be a competitive supplier of tanks. Cobbling together a new one using old Challenger hulls is a waste of time and money.
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Indeed, but those who pushed Brexit may not be so keen on the shift.Stuartinromford said:
How could it be otherwise? When push comes to shove, the jobs still need to be done.Foxy said:
Brexit hasn't impacted on immigration numbers but has shifted the origins of the migrants. We get more from MENA and South Asia now. Our Greek doctors are being replaced by Egyptians.Nigelb said:.
So if lots more come in, we'll have lots more ?rcs1000 said:
It's 17.2% in the high migration scenario.Taz said:
Eh, 9.7%.WillG said:Interesting maps showing Britain to be 18% Muslim by 2050.
https://www.reddit.com/r/MapPorn/comments/10o5vxv/
Albeit that scenario requires massively more Muslim migration than is currently the case.
Remarkable.3 -
Subsidies on second hand vehicles aren't going to increase the supply. How does this help 'meet climate targets' ?TheScreamingEagles said:Great policy for the criminally neglected middle classes.
The government should give middle-class drivers incentives to buy a second-hand electric car if climate targets are to be met, experts say.
Demand for used electric vehicles is falling as electricity prices have risen, and the price of used electric cars, particularly luxury models, has fallen. The average price of a used Jaguar I-pace has fallen 14.6 per cent in a year, and the Tesla Model X is down 12.1 per cent.
Cheaper models such as the Nissan Leaf have not fallen as far, by only 1.6 per cent. The price of the two-seater Smart ForTwo has fallen by 1.3 per cent.
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/give-middle-classes-help-to-buy-a-used-electric-car-say-experts-slnpc537n0 -
I wonder how much self propelled artillery we can now deploy too.Nigelb said:
As it probably should be.JosiasJessop said:
If I may play devil's advocate for a moment, then I'd say that now may be exactly the *wrong* time to be ordering tanks for our own use. What we may be seeing in Ukraine is the first 'proper' tank battles between militaries equipped with very modern weapons. How the Ch2, Abrams, Leo2s and all the ex-Soviet tanks behave in the next year, and the tactics developed to effectively use, and defeat, them, should be fed into any new designs. And yes, that might mean Ch3 is dead...DecrepiterJohnL said:
Well, the possibly fictitious American general has a point after decades of cuts. The latest complaint is that Rishi is giving tanks to Ukraine without ordering new ones. Which, incidentally, is further than Ukraine's BFF Boris was prepared to go.Dura_Ace said:
"US general". Fucking LOL. This is just Baldy Ben or one of his thanes leaking stuff to try to get more money from the Treasury. Possible preemptive strike to stave off a cut to the army. They have put the words in the mouth of a "US general", who may or may not exist, because they think it carries more heft than just Captain Mainwaring saying it.DecrepiterJohnL said:US general warns British Army no longer top-level fighting force, defence sources reveal
Rishi Sunak risks failing in his role as "wartime prime minister" unless he takes urgent action given the growing security threat posed by Vladimir Putin, it has been warned, with calls for a significant hike in spending.
https://news.sky.com/story/us-general-warns-british-army-no-longer-top-level-fighting-force-defence-sources-reveal-12798365
Of all the future scenarios we can imagine, the UK fighting tanks battles is one if the more remote ones.
And if it's a question if supporting allies, we'd be more useful if we fielded the same kit.
We long since abandoned any claim to be a competitive supplier of tanks. Cobbling together a new one using old Challenger hulls is a waste of time and money.
Ammo must be a big issue too in any significant large scale action. It seems to be a major limiting factor in the Ukraine War.0 -
Sending a ship named HMS Prince of Wales into the South China Sea with inadequate escort doesn't have a great precedent, and that was when we had local bases.DavidL said:It seems the armed forces are another public service on which we spend more and more to get less and less. Russia is not a conventional threat to us as has been shown in the Ukraine where their army is being destroyed. It is not easy to see what the conventional threat is at the moment.
The real question for defence is do we want to try and play in the Pacific. If we do the carriers should be the major focus of our defence efforts. They are not capable of being deployed without a lot of support from the US right now. Do we want to try and address that?1 -
How do EVs help the environment if much of the electricity to charge them is produced using fossil fuels?1
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With the exception of the Times (non shock) I don't see a good headline for Sunak here.0
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I agree, they would be Repulsed.Foxy said:
Sending a ship named HMS Prince of Wales into the South China Sea with inadequate escort doesn't have a great precedent, and that was when we had local bases.DavidL said:It seems the armed forces are another public service on which we spend more and more to get less and less. Russia is not a conventional threat to us as has been shown in the Ukraine where their army is being destroyed. It is not easy to see what the conventional threat is at the moment.
The real question for defence is do we want to try and play in the Pacific. If we do the carriers should be the major focus of our defence efforts. They are not capable of being deployed without a lot of support from the US right now. Do we want to try and address that?0 -
TheScreamingEagles said:
Only just seen this, from yesterday's Sunday Times.
That bath stunt by the repulsive Ian Maxwell and swallowed hook, line and sinker by the sycophantic Daily Telegraph might just be the worst piece of journalist puff in my lifetime.
Although The Hitler Diaries weren't exactly a good example of rigorous standards ...0 -
Well, they do improve air quality in cities. Which is badly needed in itself.MikeSmithson said:How do EVs help the environment if much of the electricity to charge them is produced using fossil fuels?
Also, a decreasing amount of our electricity is from fossil fuels. Sure, the last couple of weeks have been dominated by gas but this month as a whole is looking good for electricity production.
Plus, if you charge them up at night when the wind is blowing but demand is low you balance the grid.0 -
Yeah, I don't think they've paid DM9 million for that stupid photo.Heathener said:TheScreamingEagles said:Only just seen this, from yesterday's Sunday Times.
That bath stunt by the repulsive Ian Maxwell and swallowed hook, line and sinker by the sycophantic Daily Telegraph might just be the worst piece of journalist puff in my lifetime.
Although The Hitler Diaries weren't exactly a good example of rigorous standards ...1 -
1. Even with 100% fossil fuel generation from oil the carbon efficiency of EV would be lower than for ICEs because centralised generation and transmission is much more efficient than decentralised fuel burningMikeSmithson said:How do EVs help the environment if much of the electricity to charge them is produced using fossil fuels?
2. In reality a large chunk of our generation is zero carbon and most of the rest is natural gas which has a much lower carbon footprint than diesel or petrol
EVs also have the bonus of not emitting NOx, particulates and other nasties into the urban atmosphere. (Though particulates from tyres are still an issue).1 -
How do wind turbines help the environment if everyone carries on driving ICE vehicles ?MikeSmithson said:How do EVs help the environment if much of the electricity to charge them is produced using fossil fuels?
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Electricity generated at a power station (even if it is from fossil fuels) has significantly less CO2 emissions per mile driven than burning petrol/diesel in the car.MikeSmithson said:How do EVs help the environment if much of the electricity to charge them is produced using fossil fuels?
https://www.transportenvironment.org/discover/does-electric-vehicle-emit-less-petrol-or-diesel/2 -
If they'd got Damien Hirst to sign it, they might have sold it for that.ydoethur said:
Yeah, I don't think they've paid DM9 million for that stupid photo.Heathener said:TheScreamingEagles said:Only just seen this, from yesterday's Sunday Times.
That bath stunt by the repulsive Ian Maxwell and swallowed hook, line and sinker by the sycophantic Daily Telegraph might just be the worst piece of journalist puff in my lifetime.
Although The Hitler Diaries weren't exactly a good example of rigorous standards ...2 -
Are you sure on 1? I thought it was the other way around. Otherwise, why do we pipe gas to houses instead of heating them with electricity? And why would we need more electricity to achieve the same thermal output?TimS said:
1. Even with 100% fossil fuel generation from oil the carbon efficiency of EV would be lower than for ICEs because centralised generation and transmission is much more efficient than decentralised fuel burningMikeSmithson said:How do EVs help the environment if much of the electricity to charge them is produced using fossil fuels?
2. In reality a large chunk of our generation is zero carbon and most of the rest is natural gas which has a much lower carbon footprint than diesel or petrol
EVs also have the bonus of not emitting NOx, particulates and other nasties into the urban atmosphere. (Though particulates from tyres are still an issue).0 -
Prince Andrew seems the type of degenerate to put pineapple on his pizza.ydoethur said:
Is that thing next to the pizza a tin of pineapple?TheScreamingEagles said:Only just seen this, from yesterday's Sunday Times.
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Untrue. He backed Sunak.HYUFD said:
He won't, they backed him for the leadership unlike ZahawiWhisperingOracle said:He should get rid of Raab and Sharp next.
https://twitter.com/nadhimzahawi/status/1584280847141638144
After he had backed Truss. And then Johnson after Truss resigned.
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EVs are also considerably more efficient in terms of energy used per mile compared with ICE vehicles.ydoethur said:
Are you sure on 1? I thought it was the other way around. Otherwise, why do we pipe gas to houses instead of heating them with electricity? And why would we need more electricity to achieve the same thermal output?TimS said:
1. Even with 100% fossil fuel generation from oil the carbon efficiency of EV would be lower than for ICEs because centralised generation and transmission is much more efficient than decentralised fuel burningMikeSmithson said:How do EVs help the environment if much of the electricity to charge them is produced using fossil fuels?
2. In reality a large chunk of our generation is zero carbon and most of the rest is natural gas which has a much lower carbon footprint than diesel or petrol
EVs also have the bonus of not emitting NOx, particulates and other nasties into the urban atmosphere. (Though particulates from tyres are still an issue).
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Rishi is going to put his failure to sack Braverman front and centre...
Rishi Sunak will take a zero-tolerance approach to future breaches of the ministerial code after sacking Nadhim Zahawi for failing to be honest about his tax affairs, senior allies have said.
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/nadhim-zahawi-sacked-conservative-party-chairman-rishi-sunak-btkw8796l0 -
To say the cases of Bryson & Scott are entirely unrelated to the #GRRBill is nonsense. Both the policy that led to the debacle & the bill result from gender identity ideology & the bizarre notion that we must accept any man’s declaration that he’s a woman.
https://twitter.com/joannaccherry/status/16199608809592258560 -
The CR3 contract is already signed to upgrade 148 x CR2. Cancelling it now (to do what?) would involve lining the pockets of BAE and the political shitstorm of job losses.JosiasJessop said:DecrepiterJohnL said:
Well, the possibly fictitious American general has a point after decades of cuts. The latest complaint is that Rishi is giving tanks to Ukraine without ordering new ones. Which, incidentally, is further than Ukraine's BFF Boris was prepared to go.Dura_Ace said:
"US general". Fucking LOL. This is just Baldy Ben or one of his thanes leaking stuff to try to get more money from the Treasury. Possible preemptive strike to stave off a cut to the army. They have put the words in the mouth of a "US general", who may or may not exist, because they think it carries more heft than just Captain Mainwaring saying it.DecrepiterJohnL said:US general warns British Army no longer top-level fighting force, defence sources reveal
Rishi Sunak risks failing in his role as "wartime prime minister" unless he takes urgent action given the growing security threat posed by Vladimir Putin, it has been warned, with calls for a significant hike in spending.
https://news.sky.com/story/us-general-warns-british-army-no-longer-top-level-fighting-force-defence-sources-reveal-12798365
Yes, this would mean a delay in obtaining new tanks, but the Ch3 project has been so laggardly that another delay - actually with a good reason this time - is excusable.0 -
Fair enough then.Nigelb said:
EVs are also considerably more efficient in terms of energy used per mile compared with ICE vehicles.ydoethur said:
Are you sure on 1? I thought it was the other way around. Otherwise, why do we pipe gas to houses instead of heating them with electricity? And why would we need more electricity to achieve the same thermal output?TimS said:
1. Even with 100% fossil fuel generation from oil the carbon efficiency of EV would be lower than for ICEs because centralised generation and transmission is much more efficient than decentralised fuel burningMikeSmithson said:How do EVs help the environment if much of the electricity to charge them is produced using fossil fuels?
2. In reality a large chunk of our generation is zero carbon and most of the rest is natural gas which has a much lower carbon footprint than diesel or petrol
EVs also have the bonus of not emitting NOx, particulates and other nasties into the urban atmosphere. (Though particulates from tyres are still an issue).0 -
Which is how it should be- roughly how it was for a long time. This shouldn't be news.Scott_xP said:Rishi is going to put his failure to sack Braverman front and centre...
Rishi Sunak will take a zero-tolerance approach to future breaches of the ministerial code after sacking Nadhim Zahawi for failing to be honest about his tax affairs, senior allies have said.
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/nadhim-zahawi-sacked-conservative-party-chairman-rishi-sunak-btkw8796l
But it might prove awkward, depending on what comes out next.
Talking of which:
Exclusive:
Nadhim Zahawi Is weighing up whether to publish a formal response to the Laurie Magnus report
He is furious and feels he was denied the chance to make his case
https://twitter.com/Steven_Swinford/status/1619960691217276928
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Once the Muslim proportion of the population goes above 10-15% the non-Muslim locals will start voting for hard right nativist partiesNigelb said:.
So if lots more come in, we'll have lots more ?rcs1000 said:
It's 17.2% in the high migration scenario.Taz said:
Eh, 9.7%.WillG said:Interesting maps showing Britain to be 18% Muslim by 2050.
https://www.reddit.com/r/MapPorn/comments/10o5vxv/
Albeit that scenario requires massively more Muslim migration than is currently the case.
Remarkable.
If it reaches 30% - like Sweden in one of those projections - I reckon you would see permanent unrest and possible civil conflict. Sweden has ALREADY voted in partially hard right governments0 -
@tnewtondunn: Startling polling from @Unherd, on the eve of the 3rd anniversary of Brexit. In all 650 UK constituencies apart fro… https://twitter.com/i/web/status/16199738312125440001
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So the Express reckons the clown is next party chair....0
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Our preference for separate (detached or semi) homes has an impact on emissions, because it makes district heating (supplying everyone in an area from one efficient boiler) somewhat less efficient (compared with blocks of flats) as more piping is needed - not sure how much, though. When I lived in Denmark 50 years ago district heating was already the norm in cities, and it's now mandatory for new connections unless you use heat pumps. A fringe benefit is that you save the space taken up by an individual boiler and don't have to worry about breakdowns.TimS said:
1. Even with 100% fossil fuel generation from oil the carbon efficiency of EV would be lower than for ICEs because centralised generation and transmission is much more efficient than decentralised fuel burningMikeSmithson said:How do EVs help the environment if much of the electricity to charge them is produced using fossil fuels?
2. In reality a large chunk of our generation is zero carbon and most of the rest is natural gas which has a much lower carbon footprint than diesel or petrol
EVs also have the bonus of not emitting NOx, particulates and other nasties into the urban atmosphere. (Though particulates from tyres are still an issue).0 -
To be honest though, before worrying about subsidising electric cars, a very simple first step to reducing carbon emissions and diesel imports would be to electrify the remainder of the railway network. Or at least, the main lines and the heavily used branch lines. It seems mad to me that we don't have wires on the whole of the Midland Main Line, the Great Western main line to Swansea and Plymouth, the Valleys lines, the Cross Country route, the North Wales line and the Marches line. Or indeed the Highland and Edinburgh-Dundee-Aberdeen lines. Fort William and Oban might be more marginal but that line does carry a fair amount of freight.
OK, so in some places low bridges and tunnels present a problem, but they're not beyond the wit of man to solve. If they could run wires through the Severn Tunnel I'm sure they could find a solution to the tubular bridges at Conwy.
But every time we try and electrify railways, somebody finds an exciting new way to cock things up.2 -
That's pretty much my view. We should have done what Poland did and get licence production of another tank - and SK's K2 Black Panther tank is allegedly very good.Nigelb said:
As it probably should be.JosiasJessop said:
If I may play devil's advocate for a moment, then I'd say that now may be exactly the *wrong* time to be ordering tanks for our own use. What we may be seeing in Ukraine is the first 'proper' tank battles between militaries equipped with very modern weapons. How the Ch2, Abrams, Leo2s and all the ex-Soviet tanks behave in the next year, and the tactics developed to effectively use, and defeat, them, should be fed into any new designs. And yes, that might mean Ch3 is dead...DecrepiterJohnL said:
Well, the possibly fictitious American general has a point after decades of cuts. The latest complaint is that Rishi is giving tanks to Ukraine without ordering new ones. Which, incidentally, is further than Ukraine's BFF Boris was prepared to go.Dura_Ace said:
"US general". Fucking LOL. This is just Baldy Ben or one of his thanes leaking stuff to try to get more money from the Treasury. Possible preemptive strike to stave off a cut to the army. They have put the words in the mouth of a "US general", who may or may not exist, because they think it carries more heft than just Captain Mainwaring saying it.DecrepiterJohnL said:US general warns British Army no longer top-level fighting force, defence sources reveal
Rishi Sunak risks failing in his role as "wartime prime minister" unless he takes urgent action given the growing security threat posed by Vladimir Putin, it has been warned, with calls for a significant hike in spending.
https://news.sky.com/story/us-general-warns-british-army-no-longer-top-level-fighting-force-defence-sources-reveal-12798365
Of all the future scenarios we can imagine, the UK fighting tanks battles is one if the more remote ones.
And if it's a question if supporting allies, we'd be more useful if we fielded the same kit.
We long since abandoned any claim to be a competitive supplier of tanks. Cobbling together a new one using old Challenger hulls is a waste of time and money.0 -
If. If the electricity were produced solely by fossil fuels, it would help the environment by natural gas having a lot less carbon than petrol or diesel. Except of course much of our electricity is produced by solar, wind and nuclear. But even the fossil fuel part has cleaner emissions than the tail pipe of a car.MikeSmithson said:How do EVs help the environment if much of the electricity to charge them is produced using fossil fuels?
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Foxy said:
Brexit hasn't impacted on immigration numbers but has shifted the origins of the migrants. We get more from MENA and South Asia now. Our Greek doctors are being replaced by Egyptians.Nigelb said:.
So if lots more come in, we'll have lots more ?rcs1000 said:
It's 17.2% in the high migration scenario.Taz said:
Eh, 9.7%.WillG said:Interesting maps showing Britain to be 18% Muslim by 2050.
https://www.reddit.com/r/MapPorn/comments/10o5vxv/
Albeit that scenario requires massively more Muslim migration than is currently the case.
Remarkable.
Most foreign doctors are and have always been from outside the EU. It suits remainers to insinuate that most were from the EU, but it was at no point true.0 -
Depends on the fuel. Vehicle efficiency. Power plant efficiencyMikeSmithson said:How do EVs help the environment if much of the electricity to charge them is produced using fossil fuels?
1 litre of petrol is 8.9 kwh / 2.3 kg of CO2
1 litre of diesel is 10 kwh / 2.7 kg CO2.
So the ~ 550 miles I get out of ~ 50 litres (500 kwh) of diesel produces 135 kg of CO2 - Give or take
4 miles/kg CO2.
How many miles does an EV get out of a kg of CO2 produced ?0 -
If everyone thought these figures meant precisely what they say then Labour would already be committed, at the very least, to EFTA/EEA in the SM, if not more.Scott_xP said:@tnewtondunn: Startling polling from @Unherd, on the eve of the 3rd anniversary of Brexit. In all 650 UK constituencies apart fro… https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1619973831212544000
So conclude that these figures mean something slightly different.
In particular they probably elide those who regret Brexit in principle, and those who regret the way it has been handled since 2016. And may well elide those who truly regret and those for whom, though it is bad, all the other options are also bad as soon as their attention is drawn to them.0 -
I think quite soon we will have to look at CO2 management, like water management, rather than the simplistic notion of CO2 being something we need to eliminate. For example, we need to ensure that we have enough CO2 in the air for plants to thrive. We need studies to understand whether high CO2 emitters like China have better-growing crops.Smart51 said:
If. If the electricity were produced solely by fossil fuels, it would help the environment by natural gas having a lot less carbon than petrol or diesel. Except of course much of our electricity is produced by solar, wind and nuclear. But even the fossil fuel part has cleaner emissions than the tail pipe of a car.MikeSmithson said:How do EVs help the environment if much of the electricity to charge them is produced using fossil fuels?
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I don't see what is wrong with that provided it focuses on common ownership rather than leasehold which is the norm with flats and apartments in most of the world, including Scotland and avoids ground rentTheScreamingEagles said:More communism from this leftist government, no wonder Michael Foot and Corbyn were in favour of leaving the EC.
Michael Gove has pledged to bring forward laws to scrap most “feudal” leaseholds in England this year.
Ministers are preparing to ditch rules that bar flat owners from buying the freehold to their property if a small part of their building is given over to commercial use, such as shops.
The government will also make it much easier for leaseholders in flats to take over their buildings and bring them into common ownership to avoid extortionate management fees and ground rents.
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/michael-gove-vows-to-scrap-feudal-leasehold-system-this-year-920srddc60 -
More panicky morality combined with hypocrisy. Sam Smith is a bit pish(!) but I like the nostalgic 80s jag when Frankie videos shocked the nation.
Link to tweet rather than c&p, for the sake of breakfasts.
https://twitter.com/miffythegamer/status/1619787269178802176?s=61&t=OkZFaO7Sr05s0b0DGLULYA0 -
Which would still be well below the current global average of 24% MuslimWillG said:Interesting maps showing Britain to be 18% Muslim by 2050.
https://www.reddit.com/r/MapPorn/comments/10o5vxv/0 -
Bombardier already offers a battery/electric train which can recharge from overhead wires, so it ought to be least possible to convert lines even without wiring tunnels.ydoethur said:To be honest though, before worrying about subsidising electric cars, a very simple first step to reducing carbon emissions and diesel imports would be to electrify the remainder of the railway network. Or at least, the main lines and the heavily used branch lines. It seems mad to me that we don't have wires on the whole of the Midland Main Line, the Great Western main line to Swansea and Plymouth, the Valleys lines, the Cross Country route, the North Wales line and the Marches line. Or indeed the Highland and Edinburgh-Dundee-Aberdeen lines. Fort William and Oban might be more marginal but that line does carry a fair amount of freight.
OK, so in some places low bridges and tunnels present a problem, but they're not beyond the wit of man to solve. If they could run wires through the Severn Tunnel I'm sure they could find a solution to the tubular bridges at Conwy.
But every time we try and electrify railways, somebody finds an exciting new way to cock things up.0 -
Outside greenhouses, I'd be pretty confident that it doesn't particularly work that way, because any carbon dioxide produced will get blown round by the wind.Luckyguy1983 said:
I think quite soon we will have to look at CO2 management, like water management, rather than the simplistic notion of CO2 being something we need to eliminate. For example, we need to ensure that we have enough CO2 in the air for plants to thrive. We need studies to understand whether high CO2 emitters like China have better-growing crops.Smart51 said:
If. If the electricity were produced solely by fossil fuels, it would help the environment by natural gas having a lot less carbon than petrol or diesel. Except of course much of our electricity is produced by solar, wind and nuclear. But even the fossil fuel part has cleaner emissions than the tail pipe of a car.MikeSmithson said:How do EVs help the environment if much of the electricity to charge them is produced using fossil fuels?
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17% if you're going to round, just saying.WillG said:Interesting maps showing Britain to be 18% Muslim by 2050.
https://www.reddit.com/r/MapPorn/comments/10o5vxv/0 -
Morning all. The reduction in staff from Europe is one of the central lunacies of being so opposed to freedom of movement from Europe, yet simultaneously so much primarily concerned about non-European immigration, for the hard right.carnforth said:Foxy said:
Brexit hasn't impacted on immigration numbers but has shifted the origins of the migrants. We get more from MENA and South Asia now. Our Greek doctors are being replaced by Egyptians.Nigelb said:.
So if lots more come in, we'll have lots more ?rcs1000 said:
It's 17.2% in the high migration scenario.Taz said:
Eh, 9.7%.WillG said:Interesting maps showing Britain to be 18% Muslim by 2050.
https://www.reddit.com/r/MapPorn/comments/10o5vxv/
Albeit that scenario requires massively more Muslim migration than is currently the case.
Remarkable.
Most foreign doctors are and have always been from outside the EU. It suits remainers to insinuate that most were from the EU, but it was at no point true.
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He backed Truss in the leadership contest with Sunak after elimination, not Sunak as Shapps and Raab did.DougSeal said:
Untrue. He backed Sunak.HYUFD said:
He won't, they backed him for the leadership unlike ZahawiWhisperingOracle said:He should get rid of Raab and Sharp next.
https://twitter.com/nadhimzahawi/status/1584280847141638144
After he had backed Truss. And then Johnson after Truss resigned.
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Via Google:Pulpstar said:
Depends on the fuel. Vehicle efficiency. Power plant efficiencyMikeSmithson said:How do EVs help the environment if much of the electricity to charge them is produced using fossil fuels?
1 litre of petrol is 8.9 kwh / 2.3 kg of CO2
1 litre of diesel is 10 kwh / 2.7 kg CO2.
So the ~ 550 miles I get out of ~ 50 litres (500 kwh) of diesel produces 135 kg of CO2 - Give or take
4 miles/kg CO2.
How many miles does an EV get out of a kg of CO2 produced ?
Electric vehicles seem to get 4 - 5 miles/kwh of energy.
In 2022, these figures were 0.193 kg of CO2e per kWh of electricity
( https://bulb.co.uk/carbon-tracker/ )
4 - 5 miles / 0.193 kg of CO2.
Or
20 - 25 miles/kg CO2.
There you go Mike, clear maths that an EV beats even an efficient ICE car for carbon efficiency.2 -
@KevinASchofield: Why the government tries to avoid putting ministers on the TV in the morning, in one handy interview. https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/kay-burley-clash-helen-whately-nadhim-zahawi_uk_63d770a0e4b01a43638ee56f0
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It also is not a rejoin poll, which gives a completely different answeralgarkirk said:
If everyone thought these figures meant precisely what they say then Labour would already be committed, at the very least, to EFTA/EEA in the SM, if not more.Scott_xP said:@tnewtondunn: Startling polling from @Unherd, on the eve of the 3rd anniversary of Brexit. In all 650 UK constituencies apart fro… https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1619973831212544000
So conclude that these figures mean something slightly different.
In particular they probably elide those who regret Brexit in principle, and those who regret the way it has been handled since 2016. And may well elide those who truly regret and those for whom, though it is bad, all the other options are also bad as soon as their attention is drawn to them.0 -
If you want to lose a few points in the polls, put Helen Whately up for any interview.0
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Much of the electricity, in the UK, is from non-carbon producing sources and the percentage is growing. Net zero and all that.MikeSmithson said:How do EVs help the environment if much of the electricity to charge them is produced using fossil fuels?
Even if powered from 100% coal fired power stations, the calculation is that an EV will emit less CO2 than the equivalent ICE.
And according to other calculations, burning the oil in a power station to power an electric car produces less CO2 than putting petrol into the equivalent ICE.
Oh, and the massive reduction in particulates. No nitrogen oxides etc etc0 -
Actually the figure is probably closer to 300gm per kWh, since generation from burning wood pellets is figured as zero carbon in the calculation, which is clearly nonsense.Pulpstar said:
Via Google:Pulpstar said:
Depends on the fuel. Vehicle efficiency. Power plant efficiencyMikeSmithson said:How do EVs help the environment if much of the electricity to charge them is produced using fossil fuels?
1 litre of petrol is 8.9 kwh / 2.3 kg of CO2
1 litre of diesel is 10 kwh / 2.7 kg CO2.
So the ~ 550 miles I get out of ~ 50 litres (500 kwh) of diesel produces 135 kg of CO2 - Give or take
4 miles/kg CO2.
How many miles does an EV get out of a kg of CO2 produced ?
Electric vehicles seem to get 4 - 5 miles/kwh of energy.
In 2022, these figures were 0.193 kg of CO2e per kWh of electricity
( https://bulb.co.uk/carbon-tracker/ )
4 - 5 miles / 0.193 kg of CO2.
Or
20 - 25 miles/kg CO2.
There you go Mike, clear maths that an EV beats even an efficient ICE car for carbon efficiency.
But even so, there's still a large difference.0 -
I suspect more honoured in the breach rather than the observance:
On Monday, prosecutors entered a handbook into evidence that has been provided to Proud Boys members. The guidelines outline everything from the groups ideology, communal initiation procedures, group songs and chants, to bizarre rules banning individual behavior including the wearing of fedoras … and masturbation.
“This is our religion,” reads one rule. “A Proud Boy may not ejaculate alone more often than once every thirty days […] if he needs to ejaculate it must be within one yard of a woman with her consent. The woman may not be a prostitute.”
The rule also denies an exception for cyber-sex with one’s wife.
https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/proud-boys-trial-rule-book-masturbation-ban-1234666317/0 -
...we need to ensure that we have enough CO2 in the air for plants to thrive...Luckyguy1983 said:
I think quite soon we will have to look at CO2 management, like water management, rather than the simplistic notion of CO2 being something we need to eliminate. For example, we need to ensure that we have enough CO2 in the air for plants to thrive. We need studies to understand whether high CO2 emitters like China have better-growing crops.Smart51 said:
If. If the electricity were produced solely by fossil fuels, it would help the environment by natural gas having a lot less carbon than petrol or diesel. Except of course much of our electricity is produced by solar, wind and nuclear. But even the fossil fuel part has cleaner emissions than the tail pipe of a car.MikeSmithson said:How do EVs help the environment if much of the electricity to charge them is produced using fossil fuels?
What are you on about? Plants survived for millennia in the 180-300ppm CO2 range; we're now over 400ppm. We also know they thrive at much higher levels of CO2. So what?0 -
If someone on the hard right believes that a greek is less foreign or more "european" or whiter (and therefore more desirable) than an egyptian, then I suppose you can say they played themselves by voting for brexit.WhisperingOracle said:
Morning all. The reduction in European staff is one of the central lunacies of being so opposed to freedom of movement from Europe, yet so much primarily concerned about non-European immigration, for the hard right.carnforth said:Foxy said:
Brexit hasn't impacted on immigration numbers but has shifted the origins of the migrants. We get more from MENA and South Asia now. Our Greek doctors are being replaced by Egyptians.Nigelb said:.
So if lots more come in, we'll have lots more ?rcs1000 said:
It's 17.2% in the high migration scenario.Taz said:
Eh, 9.7%.WillG said:Interesting maps showing Britain to be 18% Muslim by 2050.
https://www.reddit.com/r/MapPorn/comments/10o5vxv/
Albeit that scenario requires massively more Muslim migration than is currently the case.
Remarkable.
Most foreign doctors are and have always been from outside the EU. It suits remainers to insinuate that most were from the EU, but it was at no point true.
But for those of us who don't care whether our doctor is greek or egyptian, it doesn't really apply.
Edit: you edited your comment, so my reply now makes less sense! But I am leaving it up anyway... your original comment was:
"Morning all. This is one of the central lunacies of being so opposed to freedom of movement from Europe, for the hard right."0 -
But nurses, on the other hand....carnforth said:Foxy said:
Brexit hasn't impacted on immigration numbers but has shifted the origins of the migrants. We get more from MENA and South Asia now. Our Greek doctors are being replaced by Egyptians.Nigelb said:.
So if lots more come in, we'll have lots more ?rcs1000 said:
It's 17.2% in the high migration scenario.Taz said:
Eh, 9.7%.WillG said:Interesting maps showing Britain to be 18% Muslim by 2050.
https://www.reddit.com/r/MapPorn/comments/10o5vxv/
Albeit that scenario requires massively more Muslim migration than is currently the case.
Remarkable.
Most foreign doctors are and have always been from outside the EU. It suits remainers to insinuate that most were from the EU, but it was at no point true.0 -
They are already looking at full battery electric trains in the US. Yes, they use more leecy than overhead wires, but you don't have the cost of constructing and maintaining the wires.Nigelb said:
Bombardier already offers a battery/electric train which can recharge from overhead wires, so it ought to be least possible to convert lines even without wiring tunnels.ydoethur said:To be honest though, before worrying about subsidising electric cars, a very simple first step to reducing carbon emissions and diesel imports would be to electrify the remainder of the railway network. Or at least, the main lines and the heavily used branch lines. It seems mad to me that we don't have wires on the whole of the Midland Main Line, the Great Western main line to Swansea and Plymouth, the Valleys lines, the Cross Country route, the North Wales line and the Marches line. Or indeed the Highland and Edinburgh-Dundee-Aberdeen lines. Fort William and Oban might be more marginal but that line does carry a fair amount of freight.
OK, so in some places low bridges and tunnels present a problem, but they're not beyond the wit of man to solve. If they could run wires through the Severn Tunnel I'm sure they could find a solution to the tubular bridges at Conwy.
But every time we try and electrify railways, somebody finds an exciting new way to cock things up.0 -
If large swathes of the Arab world, north Africa, Asia, are almost 100% Muslim then the "global average" is a fairly strange concept.HYUFD said:
Which would still be well below the current global average of 24% MuslimWillG said:Interesting maps showing Britain to be 18% Muslim by 2050.
https://www.reddit.com/r/MapPorn/comments/10o5vxv/
Some other countries, for example in South America, have less than 1% Muslims.
I'm not really sure what point you're trying to make.0 -
Oh look. You're at it again.CarlottaVance said:To say the cases of Bryson & Scott are entirely unrelated to the #GRRBill is nonsense. Both the policy that led to the debacle & the bill result from gender identity ideology & the bizarre notion that we must accept any man’s declaration that he’s a woman.
https://twitter.com/joannaccherry/status/1619960880959225856
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Pulpstar said:
Depends on the fuel. Vehicle efficiency. Power plant efficiencyMikeSmithson said:How do EVs help the environment if much of the electricity to charge them is produced using fossil fuels?
1 litre of petrol is 8.9 kwh / 2.3 kg of CO2
1 litre of diesel is 10 kwh / 2.7 kg CO2.
So the ~ 550 miles I get out of ~ 50 litres (500 kwh) of diesel produces 135 kg of CO2 - Give or take
4 miles/kg CO2.
How many miles does an EV get out of a kg of CO2 produced ?
That's increasing every year as renewables increase, surely?0 -
Leondamus has spoken.Leon said:
Once the Muslim proportion of the population goes above 10-15% the non-Muslim locals will start voting for hard right nativist partiesNigelb said:.
So if lots more come in, we'll have lots more ?rcs1000 said:
It's 17.2% in the high migration scenario.Taz said:
Eh, 9.7%.WillG said:Interesting maps showing Britain to be 18% Muslim by 2050.
https://www.reddit.com/r/MapPorn/comments/10o5vxv/
Albeit that scenario requires massively more Muslim migration than is currently the case.
Remarkable.
If it reaches 30% - like Sweden in one of those projections - I reckon you would see permanent unrest and possible civil conflict. Sweden has ALREADY voted in partially hard right governments
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Nothing like the Boy Scouts, then!CarlottaVance said:I suspect more honoured in the breach rather than the observance:
On Monday, prosecutors entered a handbook into evidence that has been provided to Proud Boys members. The guidelines outline everything from the groups ideology, communal initiation procedures, group songs and chants, to bizarre rules banning individual behavior including the wearing of fedoras … and masturbation.
“This is our religion,” reads one rule. “A Proud Boy may not ejaculate alone more often than once every thirty days […] if he needs to ejaculate it must be within one yard of a woman with her consent. The woman may not be a prostitute.”
The rule also denies an exception for cyber-sex with one’s wife.
https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/proud-boys-trial-rule-book-masturbation-ban-1234666317/
Good morning one and all! Hospital trip today.0 -
... are mostly from Asia:IanB2 said:
But nurses, on the other hand....carnforth said:Foxy said:
Brexit hasn't impacted on immigration numbers but has shifted the origins of the migrants. We get more from MENA and South Asia now. Our Greek doctors are being replaced by Egyptians.Nigelb said:.
So if lots more come in, we'll have lots more ?rcs1000 said:
It's 17.2% in the high migration scenario.Taz said:
Eh, 9.7%.WillG said:Interesting maps showing Britain to be 18% Muslim by 2050.
https://www.reddit.com/r/MapPorn/comments/10o5vxv/
Albeit that scenario requires massively more Muslim migration than is currently the case.
Remarkable.
Most foreign doctors are and have always been from outside the EU. It suits remainers to insinuate that most were from the EU, but it was at no point true.
It's a mind-virus!0 -
Smart51 said:
If. If the electricity were produced solely by fossil fuels, it would help the environment by natural gas having a lot less carbon than petrol or diesel. Except of course much of our electricity is produced by solar, wind and nuclear. But even the fossil fuel part has cleaner emissions than the tail pipe of a car.MikeSmithson said:How do EVs help the environment if much of the electricity to charge them is produced using fossil fuels?
A first post that indicates you may be real, not a Russian troll, in which case, welcome Smart51!0 -
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