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New polling tonight finds 78% saying they’ll comply with the latest lockdown regime – politicalbetti
New polling tonight finds 78% saying they’ll comply with the latest lockdown regime – politicalbetting.com
New polling just published by Savanta ComRes finds that the overwhelming proportion of people in England plan to comply with the latest lockdown regime aimed at stemming the spread of COVID.
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We probably think of ourselves as credulous and independent minded, and maybe we are, and a lot of people certainly do not like Boris, but when The PM goes on TV like early in the year and said you must not leave your home, by and large people listened and listen, and even if not adhering to everything, took their own precautions.
28% in Tier 4 oppose ending the Christmas Bubbles in their area
https://twitter.com/SavantaComRes/status/1340430564848001030?s=20
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9071213/GLEN-OWEN-tells-inside-story-libertarian-PM-ended-cancelling-Christmas.html
And we may well find that this lockdown was sold on the basis of a pack of lies, just like the last one.
Mine haven't changed. Those who will comply probably weren't the ones planning on a big Xmas anyways.
The cussing at the PM's supposed volt-face is childish and dangerous. We should try to do as we have been told. We're all in it together, for better or worse.
Of course, today's tier four advice inevitably includes the following provisions:
"You can leave home for education (formal provision, rather than extracurricular classes such as music or drama tuition, or out of school settings) or training, registered childcare and supervised activities for children that are necessary to allow parents/carers to work, seek work, undertake education or training, or attend a medical appointment. Parents can still take their children to school, and people can continue existing arrangements for contact between parents and children where they live apart. This includes childcare bubbles."
Letting the schools and universities resume in January will precipitate the last major mistake and U-turn of the Johnson Ministry. The students - if they are reckless enough to go back in the first place - will soon be incarcerated in halls for months, with the authorities terrified of allowing them to return home yet again. Children will have to be locked away when the consequences of bringing the virus home from the playground threaten the healthcare system with collapse.
After that there'll be no more decisions for the Prime Minister to take. The disease will dictate a draconian lockdown for everybody, until enough people have been immunised to allow restrictions to be eased. He'll then either jump or be pushed. The country and his party will both have had enough of him. Why would anyone want to put this failed leader in charge of dragging the prone body of the nation back up off the floor?
There is more than strong support for the view that his original judgement was flawed. And most of us could see it coming a mile away.
https://twitter.com/SavantaComRes/status/1340430560292966402/photo/1
No, I'm Captain Hindsight.....
I'm Captain Hindsight....
I'm Captain Hindsight.....
Repeat about 50 million times.....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FKCmyiljKo0&ab_channel=Movieclips
How on earth is he ever going to recover from this disaster?
Mark Francois has surfaced to remind us that the ERG haven't gone away you know.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2020/12/19/boris-johnson-would-regret-trying-bounce-parliament-deal/
Genius!
Motorists whose cars break down on a live lane of a smart motorway will not be spotted by specialist radar on 95 per cent of the network because only 23.86 miles of carriageway has the technology, the Sunday Telegraph can reveal.
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It has been estimated that 26 motorists a day suffer the horror of breaking down in a live lane having failed to reach an emergency refuge area. It takes on average 17 minutes for Highways England to spot a stranded vehicle before closing the lane to traffic. Since 2015, more than 40 people have died on smart motorways.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/12/19/highways-england-fails-fit-radar-spots-motorists-stranded-live/
It also doesn't help that some of the PCP act as if they were on PCP...
So, for our Xmas game, we should start guessing who is (i) the first Zeleb and (ii) first politician to be found breaking the new rules.
A early contender is Mark Drakeford who tweeted "Please don’t rush to the shops tonight. As we move to alert level four in Wales most shops must close but supermarkets will remain open, and click and collect will be available."
Before rushing to the shops to panic-buy his turkey at 7pm.
https://twitter.com/alicetoftsx
But the polling numbers to look at will not be tonight. They will be when we come out of this the other end. If we come out of it sooner and in materially better shape than other countries, Boris will get some grudging acknowledgement from many that he did alright. If about the same as others, maybe some of the gilt will have worn off. Materially worse, and he will be done for.
Judging anything on the basis of people currently fucked off becauuse they are looking at eating a 16lb turkey for a week is not the way to go, I would suggest.
Boris' fortunes are more likely tied to whether the various vaccines in play a) get approved then b) get delivered then c) work against this new variant of the virus - and any others that materialise too.
Tier 2 - High Risk
Tier 3 - Very High Risk
Tier 4 - You're Fucked
This is a pandemic. Philosophical attachment to the views of Nozick is not at the forefront of most minds.
Took my 94 year old uncle for his today and he gets his 2nd one on 9/1/21
Can still sing merry Xmas whilst washing your hands too.
Fantastic, well done for being optimistic.
I thought Nozick was bollocks thirty five years ago, I think similarly of the CRG/ERG today.
What I'm wondering about is what will happen when, say, 25% of the population has been vaccinated. There will still be virus spreading and it will come into contact with these vaccinated people.
If the vaccines actually stop the current strains spreading then there will be evolutionary pressure for it to mutate into a new strain that can still infect the vaccinated. If the vaccines just makes the disease milder but don't stop it spreading, then that pressure won't be there.
Would it actually be better long term if the vaccines do _not_ stop the spread of covid? Or will just cutting the amount of virus in circulation reduce the number of chance mutations that could turn out nasty?
President Trump tweeted it could have been China.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-55374945
Son goes to work on Saturday morning. Several hours later his place of work is shut down. He is not eligible for furlough. He does not know whether he can be redeployed elsewhere in the organisation. He will be told by Monday. He will, like very very many others, now be looking for work when many possible openings in the sectors where he has experience - retail, hospitality and the arts - are closed and busy making people redundant.
The government is silent about any support for people like him made jobless at a moment's notice. Where the hell is Sunak and what is he doing?
Presumably those without furlough are expected to live on fresh air and bullshit from Ministers.
Son had already decided to stay with his father, brother and uncle - one support bubble since you ask - for Xmas, largely to protect me. For a brief moment I had 3 children in work. Now I have one unemployed, one whose business is on the brink of closure and one in the only work he can find, despite a good degree and doing nothing else but apply for jobs for the last 9 months. He thinks life for his generation has been "fucked". He's not wrong.
I don't care about Xmas even though it will be a lonely affair this year. But I do care about our young being abandoned by a government which promised help at the start but which has progressively abandoned them as things have got worse and gone on longer than we hoped.
We are now back where we are last March. Maybe the vaccine will help, provided we don't now find that this mutation will outwit the vaccine. But even with a vaccine, we have very many months of misery ahead.
Do I have any good news? No. Sorry.
350,000 people in the UK have already received the 1st Pfizer jab. The Oxford one is about to be greenlit. 20 million will have been vaccinated by March. So, yes, there is extremely good news.
This is a temporary setback but we're on the route out of this virus now. It may be a long drive but we've begun it.
But the substance is a triumph of hope over experience.
This vaccine is a stunning achievement and the Gov't have done absolutely brilliantly on it.
So they’re operating on the assumption that they take no new deliveries in the next few weeks. Why is that I wonder...
It's bizarre to me that politicians keep getting behind the curve. Even Starmer who has made the right call a couple of times seems tentative.
However, they keep getting it wrong because they’re useless.
Meanwhile I know people tonight now deeply worried how they will pay their mortgage. Those living off the triple lock, final salary pension and BTL income should be deeply ashamed at what is being done to the younger generations in their name.
Lots of people think he is right to tighten. Therefore by definition they think his original plans were too optimistic. It would only be damaging if they think he was reckless in formulating his original plans
The vaccine development is an astonishing success story. Inside 12 months from virus outbreak to the start of vaccinations is astounding in scientific terms. That the UK Government pre-ordered in bulk SEVEN different developers is one of the most brilliant decisions in political judgement. And I write that as someone left of centre and a deep critic of Boris Johnson.
The Pfizer vaccine requires complex logistics and we have not 'had all year' to know whether it would be efficacious and how it needed to be transported and stored. The early rollout has gone far better than I was anticipating. Next week we will be vaccinating 200,000 people a day. This is a stupendous start.
It's a stellar achievement and the route out of this wretched virus.
In a statement, Pfizer said: "The deliveries are on track and progressing according to our agreed schedule.
"We can confirm, in accordance with the schedule, that there will be continued deliveries into the UK in early 2021, with shipments scheduled to arrive before March.”
I'm a big critic of Johnson but praise is due to the UK for its brilliant response on the vaccine. The envy of the world on this if nothing else.
The scientific achievement of the vaccine is a total game changer and I say that without really thinking about covid but the much wider potential of mRNA vaccines.
The logistics requirement is something that has been known about with the Pfizer vax since the start of the pandemic. They have spent $2bn making it idiot proof for their customers.
It has been clear to those with knowledge beyond that in the wider public domain for many months that Pfizer, Moderna and AZN were likely to have the required efficacy and be first to approval.
It’s a basic question. We’ve got something like 900k useful doses in our possession and have used a little more than a third. Why?
We’ve done 350K. So 85% of the possible.
We’ve also just given discretion to nurses on using a 6th dose (although that will probably have little impact on numbers of vaccines from this batch as used vials will already have been disposed of).
85% in 2 weeks is pretty damn good
I wish I could get my vaccination. The site I've been given hasn't got any appointments and our local surgery has no idea when it's getting any vaccine. It's a fridge issue, apparently!
https://twitter.com/LeslieProll/status/1340452481193664512?s=19
Mr. Nichomar, depends a lot on circumstance. The Conservatives will cop serious flak for general trade disruption. But something like the vaccines would obviously have massive priority to jump a queue and if that were prevented from the EU side then the reverse would be true.
They are happy to let private companies including themselves collect masses of information about everyone, but unwilling to let us have a useful app against a deadly pandemic.
Fuck them.
Governments should apply the same rules to them and not allow them to collect any data from peoples' mobile phones.
However we haven’t done trials on the efficacy of a one dose regime.
*if* it offers minimal protection and *if* there is an interruption to supply then those doses would have been wasted
It is better, from a risk reward perspective, to ensure than 95% of the most vulnerable are protected that possibly end up with no one protected
People need two doses, but weeks apart, and we have been told that millions more are due to arrive before New Year. So no excuse for not having done 800,000 already.
The government is responsible for the vaccine’s deployment, not its development. We’ve started with the low hanging fruit - people already in hospital, as patients or staff, and elderly patients of the handful of earmarked GP practices who have been phone-called into their local practice. Whether the whole thing is going to be a brilliant piece of organisation, it is still too early to say.