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First, like Trump?0
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I think we also need to take account of farmers distress re: China tariffs. RCS pointed out November results in Iowa, for example. I would think it would be the same in many places in the mid-west. Exactly, the places which won Trump the election.0
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Second like Man City next season.1
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OT. Interesting news on Iran. It's seems the US are trying to provoke war but EU are dead against.and Britain is being caught in the middle. The commentator (a professor specialising in Middle Eastern affairs) suggested the UK under Johnson would have to choose between supporting John Bolton or the EU.
He suggested that Trump expects Johnson to line up behind the US.
So we once again find ourselves as America's favourite poodle and on the wrong side.0 -
He's also upset a different part of his base today by coming out firmly against cryptocurrencies:
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A recent ABC news poll did indeed have 52% of American voters backing a single payer healthcare system but that fell to just 43% if abolishing private health insurance was proposed as Warren has suggested.
The 'Trumpcare' the president wants is in any case not far away from Obamacare
https://abcnews.go.com/amp/Politics/trump-reaches-career-high-approval-faces-range-reelection/story?id=641170180 -
"t's seems the US are trying to provoke war ..."Roger said:OT. Interesting news on Iran. It's seems the US are trying to provoke war but EU are dead against.and Britain are being caught in the middle. The commentator (a professor specialising in Middle Eastern affairs suggested the UK under Johnson would have to choose between supporting John Bolton or the EU.
He suggested that John Bolton expects Johnson to line up behind the US.
So we once again find ourselves as America's favourite poodle and on the wrong side.
Who do you think placed those mines on the Japanese ship?0 -
The US are trying to provoke war? What do you think Iran are up to, shooting down drones and trying to illegally seize vessels?Roger said:OT. Interesting news on Iran. It's seems the US are trying to provoke war but EU are dead against.and Britain is being caught in the middle. The commentator (a professor specialising in Middle Eastern affairs) suggested the UK under Johnson would have to choose between supporting John Bolton or the EU.
He suggested that Trump expects Johnson to line up behind the US.
So we once again find ourselves as America's favourite poodle and on the wrong side.0 -
Well, it is a giant Ponzi scheme. I bet 90% of people are in it just to make money.AlastairMeeks said:He's also upset a different part of his base today by coming out firmly against cryptocurrencies:
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/11494722825840721920 -
That's unfair. At least 20% are in it to buy drugs.RobD said:
Well, it is a giant Ponzi scheme. I bet 90% of people are in it just to make money.AlastairMeeks said:He's also upset a different part of his base today by coming out firmly against cryptocurrencies:
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/11494722825840721920 -
Corbynite councillor in charge of Brighton's schools who says 'privatisation won't provide good education' sends his daughter to £40,000-a-year Roedean girls' school
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7231707/EXCL-Corbynite-councillor-charge-schools-sends-daughter-40-000-year-Roedean-School.html1 -
Mossad.JosiasJessop said:
"t's seems the US are trying to provoke war ..."Roger said:OT. Interesting news on Iran. It's seems the US are trying to provoke war but EU are dead against.and Britain are being caught in the middle. The commentator (a professor specialising in Middle Eastern affairs suggested the UK under Johnson would have to choose between supporting John Bolton or the EU.
He suggested that John Bolton expects Johnson to line up behind the US.
So we once again find ourselves as America's favourite poodle and on the wrong side.
Who do you think placed those mines on the Japanese ship?0 -
They signed a treaty as did the EU and have reneged on it. If the EU think reneging was wrong but Trump and Bolton are behind it I know where my support would go.RobD said:
The US are trying to provoke war? What do you think Iran are up to, shooting down drones and trying to illegally seize vessels?Roger said:OT. Interesting news on Iran. It's seems the US are trying to provoke war but EU are dead against.and Britain is being caught in the middle. The commentator (a professor specialising in Middle Eastern affairs) suggested the UK under Johnson would have to choose between supporting John Bolton or the EU.
He suggested that Trump expects Johnson to line up behind the US.
So we once again find ourselves as America's favourite poodle and on the wrong side.0 -
My apologies!El_Capitano said:
That's unfair. At least 20% are in it to buy drugs.RobD said:
Well, it is a giant Ponzi scheme. I bet 90% of people are in it just to make money.AlastairMeeks said:He's also upset a different part of his base today by coming out firmly against cryptocurrencies:
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/11494722825840721920 -
As it happens, I agree with The Donald about cryptocurrencies (they are also horrifically unsound on environmental grounds). I merely note that a lot of deranged libertarians who have to date been enthusiastic supporters of him are now horrified.RobD said:
Well, it is a giant Ponzi scheme. I bet 90% of people are in it just to make money.AlastairMeeks said:He's also upset a different part of his base today by coming out firmly against cryptocurrencies:
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1149472282584072192
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Absolutely. He's not wrong there either.RobD said:
Well, it is a giant Ponzi scheme. I bet 90% of people are in it just to make money.AlastairMeeks said:He's also upset a different part of his base today by coming out firmly against cryptocurrencies:
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/11494722825840721920 -
Neither the US or Iran are looking for war, but both are determined to appear strong and seem willing to choose war over appearing weak.
Like with healthcare this looks like an example of Trump opposing something - the Iran nuclear deal - because it's an Obama achievement. The lesson is: no good can come of trying to reverse Obama's legacy.1 -
I don't think Libertarians are Donald's prime target audience.AlastairMeeks said:
As it happens, I agree with The Donald about cryptocurrencies (they are also horrifically unsound on environmental grounds). I merely note that a lot of deranged libertarians who have to date been enthusiastic supporters of him are now horrified.RobD said:
Well, it is a giant Ponzi scheme. I bet 90% of people are in it just to make money.AlastairMeeks said:He's also upset a different part of his base today by coming out firmly against cryptocurrencies:
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/11494722825840721920 -
Listen to Mark Mardel on the One O'clock news. It's more nuanced than that as most thinking people would realise.JosiasJessop said:
"t's seems the US are trying to provoke war ..."Roger said:OT. Interesting news on Iran. It's seems the US are trying to provoke war but EU are dead against.and Britain are being caught in the middle. The commentator (a professor specialising in Middle Eastern affairs suggested the UK under Johnson would have to choose between supporting John Bolton or the EU.
He suggested that John Bolton expects Johnson to line up behind the US.
So we once again find ourselves as America's favourite poodle and on the wrong side.
Who do you think placed those mines on the Japanese ship?0 -
Indeed, the third placed candidate in the 2016 US presidential election was the Libertarian Party's Gary Johnson with 3%.Philip_Thompson said:
I don't think Libertarians are Donald's prime target audience.AlastairMeeks said:
As it happens, I agree with The Donald about cryptocurrencies (they are also horrifically unsound on environmental grounds). I merely note that a lot of deranged libertarians who have to date been enthusiastic supporters of him are now horrified.RobD said:
Well, it is a giant Ponzi scheme. I bet 90% of people are in it just to make money.AlastairMeeks said:He's also upset a different part of his base today by coming out firmly against cryptocurrencies:
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1149472282584072192
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Does your uneqivocal support for Johnson include everyone Johnson knows and likes as well as the great man himself? If I was to suggest his girlfriend looks like his daughter would you find me a poll that showed I had defective eyesight?HYUFD said:A recent ABC news poll did indeed have 52% of American voters backing a single payer healthcare system but that fell to just 43% if abolishing private health insurance was proposed as Warren has suggested.
The 'Trumpcare' the president wants is in any case not far away from Obamacare
https://abcnews.go.com/amp/Politics/trump-reaches-career-high-approval-faces-range-reelection/story?id=641170180 -
If a poll found such a result of course!Roger said:
Does your uneqivocal support for Johnson include everyone Johnson knows and likes as well as the great man himself? If I was to suggest his girlfriend looks like his daughter would you find me a poll that showed I had defective eyesight?HYUFD said:A recent ABC news poll did indeed have 52% of American voters backing a single payer healthcare system but that fell to just 43% if abolishing private health insurance was proposed as Warren has suggested.
The 'Trumpcare' the president wants is in any case not far away from Obamacare
https://abcnews.go.com/amp/Politics/trump-reaches-career-high-approval-faces-range-reelection/story?id=641170180 -
It's a large part of the constituency of r/The_Donald.Philip_Thompson said:
I don't think Libertarians are Donald's prime target audience.AlastairMeeks said:
As it happens, I agree with The Donald about cryptocurrencies (they are also horrifically unsound on environmental grounds). I merely note that a lot of deranged libertarians who have to date been enthusiastic supporters of him are now horrified.RobD said:
Well, it is a giant Ponzi scheme. I bet 90% of people are in it just to make money.AlastairMeeks said:He's also upset a different part of his base today by coming out firmly against cryptocurrencies:
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1149472282584072192
Then again, they are all 14 and can't vote.0 -
You're both wrong. I for one am only in crypto to sell drugs.RobD said:
My apologies!El_Capitano said:
That's unfair. At least 20% are in it to buy drugs.RobD said:
Well, it is a giant Ponzi scheme. I bet 90% of people are in it just to make money.AlastairMeeks said:He's also upset a different part of his base today by coming out firmly against cryptocurrencies:
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/11494722825840721921 -
What's a "legal Stuart" ?0
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Who imposed sanctions ?RobD said:
The US are trying to provoke war? What do you think Iran are up to, shooting down drones and trying to illegally seize vessels?Roger said:OT. Interesting news on Iran. It's seems the US are trying to provoke war but EU are dead against.and Britain is being caught in the middle. The commentator (a professor specialising in Middle Eastern affairs) suggested the UK under Johnson would have to choose between supporting John Bolton or the EU.
He suggested that Trump expects Johnson to line up behind the US.
So we once again find ourselves as America's favourite poodle and on the wrong side.0 -
Iran is the victim in all this? Give me a break.surbiton19 said:
Who imposed sanctions ?RobD said:
The US are trying to provoke war? What do you think Iran are up to, shooting down drones and trying to illegally seize vessels?Roger said:OT. Interesting news on Iran. It's seems the US are trying to provoke war but EU are dead against.and Britain is being caught in the middle. The commentator (a professor specialising in Middle Eastern affairs) suggested the UK under Johnson would have to choose between supporting John Bolton or the EU.
He suggested that Trump expects Johnson to line up behind the US.
So we once again find ourselves as America's favourite poodle and on the wrong side.0 -
This is now the Yang base.El_Capitano said:
It's a large part of the constituency of r/The_Donald.Philip_Thompson said:
I don't think Libertarians are Donald's prime target audience.AlastairMeeks said:
As it happens, I agree with The Donald about cryptocurrencies (they are also horrifically unsound on environmental grounds). I merely note that a lot of deranged libertarians who have to date been enthusiastic supporters of him are now horrified.RobD said:
Well, it is a giant Ponzi scheme. I bet 90% of people are in it just to make money.AlastairMeeks said:He's also upset a different part of his base today by coming out firmly against cryptocurrencies:
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1149472282584072192
Then again, they are all 14 and can't vote.0 -
What are the other 10% in for ?RobD said:
Well, it is a giant Ponzi scheme. I bet 90% of people are in it just to make money.AlastairMeeks said:He's also upset a different part of his base today by coming out firmly against cryptocurrencies:
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/11494722825840721920 -
" as most thinking people would realise."Roger said:
Listen to Mark Mardel on the One O'clock news. It's more nuanced than that as most thinking people would realise.JosiasJessop said:
"t's seems the US are trying to provoke war ..."Roger said:OT. Interesting news on Iran. It's seems the US are trying to provoke war but EU are dead against.and Britain are being caught in the middle. The commentator (a professor specialising in Middle Eastern affairs suggested the UK under Johnson would have to choose between supporting John Bolton or the EU.
He suggested that John Bolton expects Johnson to line up behind the US.
So we once again find ourselves as America's favourite poodle and on the wrong side.
Who do you think placed those mines on the Japanese ship?
Most 'thinking people' wouldn't think (yet alone say) it was okay for 'the talent' in showbusiness to abuse women, my dear chap. Which means you're most certainly unthinking.
Although I've read fairly widely on it, I didn't hear Mardell. So please, in your unthinking way, what did he say?0 -
Lawsuit.Pulpstar said:What's a "legal Stuart" ?
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That's a bit less than those who actually understand how the whole damn thing works.RobD said:
Well, it is a giant Ponzi scheme. I bet 90% of people are in it just to make money.AlastairMeeks said:He's also upset a different part of his base today by coming out firmly against cryptocurrencies:
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/11494722825840721920 -
Some people are mad enough to use it as a currency.Pulpstar said:
What are the other 10% in for ?RobD said:
Well, it is a giant Ponzi scheme. I bet 90% of people are in it just to make money.AlastairMeeks said:He's also upset a different part of his base today by coming out firmly against cryptocurrencies:
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/11494722825840721920 -
Even if we accept that 1.4 to 1.11 is still only 20% not the alleged 30%.felix said:
The value started to fall form around €1.40 before the referendum to around €1.30 at the time of the vote. It is currently around €1.10MattW said:
No. It hasn't.OllyT said:
Excuse me but hasn't the pound already lost 30% of its value against the euro since the referendum. Let's not pretend nothing has changed.Philip_Thompson said:If we do leave No Deal 31 October and the sky doesn't fall, how long will it take before you admit you were wrong?
For the previous 5 years it was below 1.25 for the huge majority of the time, ie 10% from the norm.
Were Mike Duff still alive, the "30% fall" claim would be a perfect case study.
Calling a halt there. Things to do.
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As I said, in secular decline. I can't see the next few months and years doing anything to address that. Perhaps in the long run, but we all know what happens then...DavidL said:
When we went to Germany in 1971 the official (army) rate of exchange was 7.4DM to the £. Lawson tried to keep us at 3. Our currency has been falling a long time. As with Italy (whose economy has gone tits up since it lost that option) the evidence of actual damage from this is, well, modest.TOPPING said:
I'll raise you 10yrsDavidL said:
Steady fall until mid 2016. Pretty stable since. Against the Euro we see the same trends even more clearly: https://www.xe.com/currencycharts/?from=GBP&to=EUR&view=5YTOPPING said:
Let me know what you think the trend is on this 5-yr graph.Philip_Thompson said:
We aren't "continually" devaluing, it is a one-off hit. And the economy isn't growing much more slowly.felix said:
Ah so that explains why the economy has begun to grow much more slowly over the past few months. You simply cannot credibly pretend that cintinually devaluing your currency is sensible economics if you expect people to take you seriously.Philip_Thompson said:
But the importer will have a lot of cost denominated in sterling anyway so it will have a much smaller impact than you claim. And exporters will make more profit which they can then pass on to their employees or pensions etcfelix said:Imports from the EU are paid for with sterling but the price is converted to sterling according the the exchange rate. With a 30% fall either the importer or consumer pays the price - if the former fails to pass it on it affects their profits.
Try dealing with reality rather than pretence.
https://xe.com/currencycharts/?from=GBP&to=USD&view=5Y
https://xe.com/currencycharts/?from=GBP&to=USD&view=10Y
The owner of a currency in secular decline is perhaps not best advised to try to "strike out alone".
What it suggests to me, along with our horrendous trade deficit with the EU is that our current arrangements (and domestic policies) are not working to our advantage and we need to try something else.0 -
FPT
If I was looking for evidence of us having a weaker position in trade negotiations with the US post Brexit I would be a lot more interested in this than whether my chicken has been washed the same way as my lettuce: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-48947922
I think that there is a strong desire on the part of the Treasury at least to follow France on this. Will we be brave enough to follow suit?0 -
Yes - sad and pathetic but undoubtedly true.OblitusSumMe said:Neither the US or Iran are looking for war, but both are determined to appear strong and seem willing to choose war over appearing weak.
Like with healthcare this looks like an example of Trump opposing something - the Iran nuclear deal - because it's an Obama achievement. The lesson is: no good can come of trying to reverse Obama's legacy.
If we could just get Obama to come out and praise Boris Johnson, Trump would go off him immediately.0 -
The Cernovich / Gab people aren't really libertarians, they like bitcoin becausePhilip_Thompson said:
I don't think Libertarians are Donald's prime target audience.
* They like conspiracy theories about Jewish bankers
* They like ZeroHedge financial catastrophe stuff
* They're getting demonetized by Youtube/Facebook and are always at risk of losing banking / credit card privileges like Wikileaks did, and with bitcoin they can still get paid regardless of how nazi they are
* Number go up
I don't know how important they were to Trump's victory but they're definitely a non-trivial element of his base.0 -
Knowledge of economics, particularly inflation, doesn't seem to be too crash hot at British universities according to this:
"Universities told to crack down as top degrees double in seven years"
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/news/universities-told-to-crack-down-as-top-degrees-double-in-seven-years-s7pwsmbs70 -
Don't tell me, it's going to be Liverpool's year again!Philip_Thompson said:Second like Man City next season.
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Looking for right or wrong it looks like an open and shut case. The US together with the EU signed a treaty with Iran. Iran kept their part of the bargain but the US unilaterally reneged on theirs. Not only that they went further and threatened sanctions on anyone who traded with Iran thus attempting to create a blockade. What would the UK do if a third country blockaded us and threatened sanctions on anyone who traded with us?surbiton19 said:
Who imposed sanctions ?RobD said:
The US are trying to provoke war? What do you think Iran are up to, shooting down drones and trying to illegally seize vessels?Roger said:OT. Interesting news on Iran. It's seems the US are trying to provoke war but EU are dead against.and Britain is being caught in the middle. The commentator (a professor specialising in Middle Eastern affairs) suggested the UK under Johnson would have to choose between supporting John Bolton or the EU.
He suggested that Trump expects Johnson to line up behind the US.
So we once again find ourselves as America's favourite poodle and on the wrong side.0 -
If we leave without a deal there will, at the least, be another one off adjustment, probably to $1.10 or so. Where we go from there will depend on how things work out.TOPPING said:fpt -
As I said, in secular decline. I can't see the next few months and years doing anything to address that. Perhaps in the long run, but we all know what happens then...DavidL said:
When we went to Germany in 1971 the official (army) rate of exchange was 7.4DM to the £. Lawson tried to keep us at 3. Our currency has been falling a long time. As with Italy (whose economy has gone tits up since it lost that option) the evidence of actual damage from this is, well, modest.TOPPING said:
I'll raise you 10yrsDavidL said:TOPPING said:
Let me know what you think the trend is on this 5-yr graph.Philip_Thompson said:felix said:Philip_Thompson said:felix said:
https://xe.com/currencycharts/?from=GBP&to=USD&view=5Y
https://xe.com/currencycharts/?from=GBP&to=USD&view=10Y
The owner of a currency in secular decline is perhaps not best advised to try to "strike out alone".
What it suggests to me, along with our horrendous trade deficit with the EU is that our current arrangements (and domestic policies) are not working to our advantage and we need to try something else.
If we do the deal I suspect we might see a very small bounce but the markets have been remarkably sanguine about pricing a deal in.
If we revoke our currency will be the least of our troubles.0 -
Well we won the Champions League last year. So yeah, why not?OllyT said:
Don't tell me, it's going to be Liverpool's year again!Philip_Thompson said:Second like Man City next season.
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Whatever happens our currency will be the least of our problems.DavidL said:If we leave without a deal there will, at the least, be another one off adjustment, probably to $1.10 or so. Where we go from there will depend on how things work out.
If we do the deal I suspect we might see a very small bounce but the markets have been remarkably sanguine about pricing a deal in.
If we revoke our currency will be the least of our troubles.0 -
Would you rather fight IndyRef2 in the EU, in a vassal state transition, or in a humiliating No Deal scenario?DavidL said:If we revoke our currency will be the least of our troubles.
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For once I agree with you.TOPPING said:
Whatever happens our currency will be the least of our problems.DavidL said:If we leave without a deal there will, at the least, be another one off adjustment, probably to $1.10 or so. Where we go from there will depend on how things work out.
If we do the deal I suspect we might see a very small bounce but the markets have been remarkably sanguine about pricing a deal in.
If we revoke our currency will be the least of our troubles.0 -
FrancisUrquhart said:
Corbynite councillor in charge of Brighton's schools who says 'privatisation won't provide good education' sends his daughter to £40,000-a-year Roedean girls' school
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7231707/EXCL-Corbynite-councillor-charge-schools-sends-daughter-40-000-year-Roedean-School.html
This is the problem with the daily mail you have to look past the headline, what he opposes is the, as he sees it, the priitisation of a state school through being forced into an academy. I don’t think he wants tp nationalist private schools. The fact that he chooses to use a top fee paying school to bypass the state system is another issue and one that many politicians of all colors are guilty of.FrancisUrquhart said:Corbynite councillor in charge of Brighton's schools who says 'privatisation won't provide good education' sends his daughter to £40,000-a-year Roedean girls' school
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7231707/EXCL-Corbynite-councillor-charge-schools-sends-daughter-40-000-year-Roedean-School.html0 -
"a top fee paying school"!!??nichomar said:FrancisUrquhart said:Corbynite councillor in charge of Brighton's schools who says 'privatisation won't provide good education' sends his daughter to £40,000-a-year Roedean girls' school
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7231707/EXCL-Corbynite-councillor-charge-schools-sends-daughter-40-000-year-Roedean-School.html
This is the problem with the daily mail you have to look past the headline, what he opposes is the, as he sees it, the priitisation of a state school through being forced into an academy. I don’t think he wants tp nationalist private schools. The fact that he chooses to use a top fee paying school to bypass the state system is another issue and one that many politicians of all colors are guilty of.FrancisUrquhart said:Corbynite councillor in charge of Brighton's schools who says 'privatisation won't provide good education' sends his daughter to £40,000-a-year Roedean girls' school
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7231707/EXCL-Corbynite-councillor-charge-schools-sends-daughter-40-000-year-Roedean-School.html
*THE* top fee paying school (together with Benenden).0 -
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So far Iran has only hinted at what they can do. If the US really attacked them, then the Strait of Hormuz and even the upper Gulf will be mined very quickly. You don't need modern technology to do that.Roger said:
Looking for right or wrong it looks like an open and shut case. The US together with the EU signed a treaty with Iran. Iran kept their part of the bargain but the US unilaterally reneged on theirs. Not only that they went further and threatened sanctions on anyone who traded with Iran thus attempting to create a blockade. What would the UK do if a third country blockaded us and threatened sanctions on anyone who traded with us?surbiton19 said:
Who imposed sanctions ?RobD said:
The US are trying to provoke war? What do you think Iran are up to, shooting down drones and trying to illegally seize vessels?Roger said:OT. Interesting news on Iran. It's seems the US are trying to provoke war but EU are dead against.and Britain is being caught in the middle. The commentator (a professor specialising in Middle Eastern affairs) suggested the UK under Johnson would have to choose between supporting John Bolton or the EU.
He suggested that Trump expects Johnson to line up behind the US.
So we once again find ourselves as America's favourite poodle and on the wrong side.
I am not surprised. They are being put up against a wall. What can they do ?
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The economics are very sound. Top degrees is what people pay for. There is high demand. Increase the supply. QED.AndyJS said:Knowledge of economics, particularly inflation, doesn't seem to be too crash hot at British universities according to this:
"Universities told to crack down as top degrees double in seven years"
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/news/universities-told-to-crack-down-as-top-degrees-double-in-seven-years-s7pwsmbs7
Of course, as with currencies, there is a risk of the devaluation of the product but that's the next guy's problem.0 -
. Whatever the EU immediately gains from defending the idea of there being four inviolable freedoms to the single market, for Germany to have allowed non-Nato Ireland to set parameters for the EU’s future relations with Britain constitutes a geopolitical gamble.
https://www.newstatesman.com/politics/brexit/2019/07/germany-have-allowed-non-nato-member-ireland-set-parameters-brexit-gamble0 -
But that's 3% Trump could do with winning and that he'd not want to see rise to 5% plus. Johnson never quite had a "moment" in 2016 but occasionally polled 10% - the last thing Trump wants is a vaguely credible "minimal state" alternative for those who are pretty grudging about him anyway but don't want a big state Democrat getting in.HYUFD said:
Indeed, the third placed candidate in the 2016 US presidential election was the Libertarian Party's Gary Johnson with 3%.Philip_Thompson said:
I don't think Libertarians are Donald's prime target audience.AlastairMeeks said:
As it happens, I agree with The Donald about cryptocurrencies (they are also horrifically unsound on environmental grounds). I merely note that a lot of deranged libertarians who have to date been enthusiastic supporters of him are now horrified.RobD said:
Well, it is a giant Ponzi scheme. I bet 90% of people are in it just to make money.AlastairMeeks said:He's also upset a different part of his base today by coming out firmly against cryptocurrencies:
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/11494722825840721920 -
DavidL said:
FPT
If I was looking for evidence of us having a weaker position in trade negotiations with the US post Brexit I would be a lot more interested in this than whether my chicken has been washed the same way as my lettuce: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-48947922
I think that there is a strong desire on the part of the Treasury at least to follow France on this. Will we be brave enough to follow suit?
I doubt it.0 -
I don't know, but it feels like much of a real possibility if we Brexit.Roger said:
Looking for right or wrong it looks like an open and shut case. The US together with the EU signed a treaty with Iran. Iran kept their part of the bargain but the US unilaterally reneged on theirs. Not only that they went further and threatened sanctions on anyone who traded with Iran thus attempting to create a blockade. What would the UK do if a third country blockaded us and threatened sanctions on anyone who traded with us?surbiton19 said:
Who imposed sanctions ?RobD said:
The US are trying to provoke war? What do you think Iran are up to, shooting down drones and trying to illegally seize vessels?Roger said:OT. Interesting news on Iran. It's seems the US are trying to provoke war but EU are dead against.and Britain is being caught in the middle. The commentator (a professor specialising in Middle Eastern affairs) suggested the UK under Johnson would have to choose between supporting John Bolton or the EU.
He suggested that Trump expects Johnson to line up behind the US.
So we once again find ourselves as America's favourite poodle and on the wrong side.0 -
Firstly, I wouldn't (although the upside for my fitbit is tempting). Secondly I am not sure I agree with your options.williamglenn said:
Would you rather fight IndyRef2 in the EU, in a vassal state transition, or in a humiliating No Deal scenario?DavidL said:If we revoke our currency will be the least of our troubles.
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Laundry?Pulpstar said:
What are the other 10% in for ?RobD said:
Well, it is a giant Ponzi scheme. I bet 90% of people are in it just to make money.AlastairMeeks said:He's also upset a different part of his base today by coming out firmly against cryptocurrencies:
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nichomar said:FrancisUrquhart said:
Corbynite councillor in charge of Brighton's schools who says 'privatisation won't provide good education' sends his daughter to £40,000-a-year Roedean girls' school
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7231707/EXCL-Corbynite-councillor-charge-schools-sends-daughter-40-000-year-Roedean-School.html
This is the problem with the daily mail you have to look past the headline, what he opposes is the, as he sees it, the priitisation of a state school through being forced into an academy. I don’t think he wants tp nationalist private schools. The fact that he chooses to use a top fee paying school to bypass the state system is another issue and one that many politicians of all colors are guilty of.FrancisUrquhart said:Corbynite councillor in charge of Brighton's schools who says 'privatisation won't provide good education' sends his daughter to £40,000-a-year Roedean girls' school
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7231707/EXCL-Corbynite-councillor-charge-schools-sends-daughter-40-000-year-Roedean-School.html
There is nothing to be guilty of in sending your child to a private school. There is a suggestion of hypocrisy however if you simultaneosly claim you want to abolish them. It's the old Labour mantra 'do as I say not as I do'.
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We have already brought forward plans.DavidL said:FPT
If I was looking for evidence of us having a weaker position in trade negotiations with the US post Brexit I would be a lot more interested in this than whether my chicken has been washed the same way as my lettuce: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-48947922
I think that there is a strong desire on the part of the Treasury at least to follow France on this. Will we be brave enough to follow suit?
The US is incorrect to state the measures are protectionist, although they are of course adding to the tax burden on US companies abroad.
The US currently benefits hugely from profits following IP, a rule which was invested er, by the British and French when it suited us...0 -
Are you suggesting that's reason to leave or to remain?Recidivist said:
I don't know, but it feels like much of a real possibility if we Brexit.Roger said:
Looking for right or wrong it looks like an open and shut case. The US together with the EU signed a treaty with Iran. Iran kept their part of the bargain but the US unilaterally reneged on theirs. Not only that they went further and threatened sanctions on anyone who traded with Iran thus attempting to create a blockade. What would the UK do if a third country blockaded us and threatened sanctions on anyone who traded with us?surbiton19 said:
Who imposed sanctions ?RobD said:
The US are trying to provoke war? What do you think Iran are up to, shooting down drones and trying to illegally seize vessels?Roger said:OT. Interesting news on Iran. It's seems the US are trying to provoke war but EU are dead against.and Britain is being caught in the middle. The commentator (a professor specialising in Middle Eastern affairs) suggested the UK under Johnson would have to choose between supporting John Bolton or the EU.
He suggested that Trump expects Johnson to line up behind the US.
So we once again find ourselves as America's favourite poodle and on the wrong side.0 -
Once sterling was floated, the value of sterling stopped being important. Would we really want to go back to the living standards of 1967 in return for having a pound/dollar rate of 2.80?DavidL said:
If we leave without a deal there will, at the least, be another one off adjustment, probably to $1.10 or so. Where we go from there will depend on how things work out.TOPPING said:fpt -
As I said, in secular decline. I can't see the next few months and years doing anything to address that. Perhaps in the long run, but we all know what happens then...DavidL said:
When we went to Germany in 1971 the official (army) rate of exchange was 7.4DM to the £. Lawson tried to keep us at 3. Our currency has been falling a long time. As with Italy (whose economy has gone tits up since it lost that option) the evidence of actual damage from this is, well, modest.TOPPING said:
I'll raise you 10yrsDavidL said:TOPPING said:
Let me know what you think the trend is on this 5-yr graph.Philip_Thompson said:felix said:Philip_Thompson said:felix said:
https://xe.com/currencycharts/?from=GBP&to=USD&view=5Y
https://xe.com/currencycharts/?from=GBP&to=USD&view=10Y
The owner of a currency in secular decline is perhaps not best advised to try to "strike out alone".
What it suggests to me, along with our horrendous trade deficit with the EU is that our current arrangements (and domestic policies) are not working to our advantage and we need to try something else.
If we do the deal I suspect we might see a very small bounce but the markets have been remarkably sanguine about pricing a deal in.
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Actually i didn’t stress that I think it’s highly hypocritical of a politician, especially involved in state education to by pass the system for which they have responsibility.TOPPING said:
"a top fee paying school"!!??nichomar said:FrancisUrquhart said:Corbynite councillor in charge of Brighton's schools who says 'privatisation won't provide good education' sends his daughter to £40,000-a-year Roedean girls' school
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7231707/EXCL-Corbynite-councillor-charge-schools-sends-daughter-40-000-year-Roedean-School.html
This is the problem with the daily mail you have to look past the headline, what he opposes is the, as he sees it, the priitisation of a state school through being forced into an academy. I don’t think he wants tp nationalist private schools. The fact that he chooses to use a top fee paying school to bypass the state system is another issue and one that many politicians of all colors are guilty of.FrancisUrquhart said:Corbynite councillor in charge of Brighton's schools who says 'privatisation won't provide good education' sends his daughter to £40,000-a-year Roedean girls' school
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7231707/EXCL-Corbynite-councillor-charge-schools-sends-daughter-40-000-year-Roedean-School.html
*THE* top fee paying school (together with Benenden).2 -
I think it’s clear that the voters are way ahead of the politicians at the moment. Yesterday’s Bridlington by-election result above is evidence for that.PClipp said:
All this morning we have heard from Conservative posters telling other Conservative posters that they ought to go off an join the Lib Dems. I expect that, somehow, the good electors of Bridlington were just one day head of that good advice.Tissue_Price said:On Bridlington, clearly it's a poor result for both Labour and the Conservatives, and a very impressive one for the Lib Dems.
But I would be wary of inferring too much from the swings which (a) are from May 2019 - how much has genuinely changed since then? and (b) are based on a three-seat election in which there were just 3 Conservative candidates and 1 Labour one, which would tend to inflate the Conservatives vote above and beyond, as they will have picked up some Labour "second preferences". And of course, there was no Lib Dem candidate at all.May 2019 result
Con 2101
Con 2050
Con 1929
Lab 855
Yesterday's by-election
Lib Dem 1308
Con 815
UKIP 349
Yorks 196
Lab 135
Ind 125
Ind 76
Ind 58
If we're going to look at local by-elections for a steer (and I think we should) we have to do so intelligently, and by looking at aggregate trends, not the seemingly startling outliers.
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Just how has our currency devalued relative to every other major world currency in the last 50 years and yet we've managed to continue growing etc ?
& Is it sustainable ?
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Project fear eat your heart out.Recidivist said:
I don't know, but it feels like much of a real possibility if we Brexit.Roger said:
Looking for right or wrong it looks like an open and shut case. The US together with the EU signed a treaty with Iran. Iran kept their part of the bargain but the US unilaterally reneged on theirs. Not only that they went further and threatened sanctions on anyone who traded with Iran thus attempting to create a blockade. What would the UK do if a third country blockaded us and threatened sanctions on anyone who traded with us?surbiton19 said:
Who imposed sanctions ?RobD said:
The US are trying to provoke war? What do you think Iran are up to, shooting down drones and trying to illegally seize vessels?Roger said:OT. Interesting news on Iran. It's seems the US are trying to provoke war but EU are dead against.and Britain is being caught in the middle. The commentator (a professor specialising in Middle Eastern affairs) suggested the UK under Johnson would have to choose between supporting John Bolton or the EU.
He suggested that Trump expects Johnson to line up behind the US.
So we once again find ourselves as America's favourite poodle and on the wrong side.0 -
It's interesting how so many people today are in favour of mind-altering drugs being legalised but are against free speech in case it offends people. I find that combination puzzling.0
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The EU is a protectionist project, but not quite in the way that the antis realise.williamglenn said:0 -
Ireland won’t look so clever after UK Corporation tax rates are below theirs once the EU have “harmonised” them....williamglenn said:Trigger warning for @TGOHF
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what does that make you?Gallowgate said:Leo Varadkar is a man of wisdom.
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I found interesting the report the other day that US states that have legalised cannabis have seen a 10% reduction in underage young people taking the drug.AndyJS said:It's interesting how so many people today are in favour of mind-altering drugs being legalised but are against free speech in case it offends people. I find that combination puzzling.
Licensed and legal outlets puts drug dealers out of business and while legal outlets have to ask for ID, drug dealers don't.0 -
No, but I actually agree with @TOPPING that it is not a particularly healthy sign. Germany got many, many benefits from a gradually rising exchange rate. It drove higher productivity, a serious focus on quality especially for exports, it helped keep domestic inflation low with consequential low interest rates and high investment. Since the Euro they have removed the competitive disadvantage they took on by joining at a high rate and have made themselves super competitive within the EZ by having what amounts to internal deflation.Sean_F said:
Once sterling was floated, the value of sterling stopped being important. Would we really want to go back to the living standards of 1967 in return for having a pound/dollar rate of 2.80?DavidL said:
If we leave without a deal there will, at the least, be another one off adjustment, probably to $1.10 or so. Where we go from there will depend on how things work out.TOPPING said:fpt -
As I said, in secular decline. I can't see the next few months and years doing anything to address that. Perhaps in the long run, but we all know what happens then...DavidL said:
When we went to Germany in 1971 the official (army) rate of exchange was 7.4DM to the £. Lawson tried to keep us at 3. Our currency has been falling a long time. As with Italy (whose economy has gone tits up since it lost that option) the evidence of actual damage from this is, well, modest.TOPPING said:
I'll raise you 10yrsDavidL said:TOPPING said:Philip_Thompson said:felix said:Philip_Thompson said:felix said:
https://xe.com/currencycharts/?from=GBP&to=USD&view=10Y
The owner of a currency in secular decline is perhaps not best advised to try to "strike out alone".
What it suggests to me, along with our horrendous trade deficit with the EU is that our current arrangements (and domestic policies) are not working to our advantage and we need to try something else.
If we do the deal I suspect we might see a very small bounce but the markets have been remarkably sanguine about pricing a deal in.
If we revoke our currency will be the least of our troubles.
Given a choice I would prefer to have a slowly appreciating currency rather than a depreciating one. I am not completely convinced it does not matter.0 -
The British public are not going to vote for a manifesto promising to slash corporation tax rates at the expense of our already crumbling public services.CarlottaVance said:
Ireland won’t look so clever after UK Corporation tax rates are below theirs once the EU have “harmonised” them....williamglenn said:Trigger warning for @TGOHF
https://twitter.com/nick_gutteridge/status/11496640814957690930 -
very crypticFF43 said:
The EU is a protectionist project, but not quite in the way that the antis realise.williamglenn said:0 -
I don't think it's at all hypocritical to say "The system loads the dice in favour of people whose families do X. Like everyone else I'll try to make sure my family doesn't lose out, but I think the system is wrong." The same applies to someone whose spouse is facing a 2-year waiting list for a hip replacement - they may (as Denis Healey did) say OK, I'll pay for you to go private, but that doesn't mean they suddenly think 2-year waiting lists are a good thing.felix said:
There is nothing to be guilty of in sending your child to a private school. There is a suggestion of hypocrisy however if you simultaneosly claim you want to abolish them. It's the old Labour mantra 'do as I say not as I do'.
The case is a little stronger when it comes to oneself - I've declined to have private medical treatment when something arose for that reason. But I don't think we should ask our families in the present be hostage to what we believe the future ought to be like.
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I would love to see a link to that if you have it.Philip_Thompson said:
I found interesting the report the other day that US states that have legalised cannabis have seen a 10% reduction in underage young people taking the drug.AndyJS said:It's interesting how so many people today are in favour of mind-altering drugs being legalised but are against free speech in case it offends people. I find that combination puzzling.
Licensed and legal outlets puts drug dealers out of business and while legal outlets have to ask for ID, drug dealers don't.0 -
Look at a map and tell me I'm mad for thinking that LV is whistling very loudly in the dark.CarlottaVance said:
Ireland won’t look so clever after UK Corporation tax rates are below theirs once the EU have “harmonised” them....williamglenn said:Trigger warning for @TGOHF
https://twitter.com/nick_gutteridge/status/11496640814957690930 -
Blimey that's a tortuous path you're treading there, Nick. I'm not sure the broad masses will be as alive to the nuances and might think such people are simply utter and total hypocrites. Me, for example.NickPalmer said:
I don't think it's at all hypocritical to say "The system loads the dice in favour of people whose families do X. Like everyone else I'll try to make sure my family doesn't lose out, but I think the system is wrong." The same applies to someone whose spouse is facing a 2-year waiting list for a hip replacement - they may (as Denis Healey did) say OK, I'll pay for you to go private, but that doesn't mean they suddenly think 2-year waiting lists are a good thing.felix said:
There is nothing to be guilty of in sending your child to a private school. There is a suggestion of hypocrisy however if you simultaneosly claim you want to abolish them. It's the old Labour mantra 'do as I say not as I do'.
The case is a little stronger when it comes to oneself - I've declined to have private medical treatment when something arose for that reason. But I don't think we should ask our families in the present be hostage to what we believe the future ought to be like.1 -
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What did you get? I had had a series of A4s and their cost seemed to have gone from about £22k to £30k+. Nice cars but not worth that. It seemed to reflect the exchange rate changes more than general inflation though.
It was a Q5 S Line TDI40, took all the bells & whistles , everything but sunroof. Very nice to drive and can potter along on soft suspension or in sports mode etc. The auto DSG box is incredible.0 -
Basically inflation. Over that period we have had higher inflation than most so we have more £, even if they are individually worth less.Pulpstar said:Just how has our currency devalued relative to every other major world currency in the last 50 years and yet we've managed to continue growing etc ?
& Is it sustainable ?
In theory it is sustainable almost indefinitely. Italy went even further than us down this road and their economy overtook ours at its pre Euro peak.0 -
"Momentum launch drive for open selections across the country
Sienna Rodgers"
https://labourlist.org/2019/07/momentum-launch-drive-for-open-selections-across-the-country/0 -
It doesn't matter if the UK has lower corporation tax. Ireland will be in the all important EU market. We won't be. In any case unless the governments change their view on austerity, taxes will go up. Added to which, Brexit will be very expensive and needs to be paid for.CarlottaVance said:
Ireland won’t look so clever after UK Corporation tax rates are below theirs once the EU have “harmonised” them....williamglenn said:Trigger warning for @TGOHF
https://twitter.com/nick_gutteridge/status/11496640814957690930 -
What does this map tell you about Brexit?ReggieCide said:
Look at a map and tell me I'm mad for thinking that LV is whistling very loudly in the dark.CarlottaVance said:
Ireland won’t look so clever after UK Corporation tax rates are below theirs once the EU have “harmonised” them....williamglenn said:Trigger warning for @TGOHF
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I don't know. You tell me?ReggieCide said:
what does that make you?Gallowgate said:Leo Varadkar is a man of wisdom.
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To hold the view that the private option should not be available but send your own child private is to place the welfare of your child above your political principles.felix said:There is nothing to be guilty of in sending your child to a private school. There is a suggestion of hypocrisy however if you simultaneosly claim you want to abolish them. It's the old Labour mantra 'do as I say not as I do'.
It is harsh and unfair to describe this as hypocrisy.
However, if you send your child private but attack others for doing the same, that IS hypocrisy.0 -
We'll have to agree to disagree. I think if someones says private schools are wrong, they shouldn't send their own children to one.NickPalmer said:
I don't think it's at all hypocritical to say "The system loads the dice in favour of people whose families do X. Like everyone else I'll try to make sure my family doesn't lose out, but I think the system is wrong." The same applies to someone whose spouse is facing a 2-year waiting list for a hip replacement - they may (as Denis Healey did) say OK, I'll pay for you to go private, but that doesn't mean they suddenly think 2-year waiting lists are a good thing.felix said:
There is nothing to be guilty of in sending your child to a private school. There is a suggestion of hypocrisy however if you simultaneosly claim you want to abolish them. It's the old Labour mantra 'do as I say not as I do'.
The case is a little stronger when it comes to oneself - I've declined to have private medical treatment when something arose for that reason. But I don't think we should ask our families in the present be hostage to what we believe the future ought to be like.1 -
Wow. That's quite a few turnips! Congratulations.malcolmg said:FPT
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What did you get? I had had a series of A4s and their cost seemed to have gone from about £22k to £30k+. Nice cars but not worth that. It seemed to reflect the exchange rate changes more than general inflation though.
It was a Q5 S Line TDI40, took all the bells & whistles , everything but sunroof. Very nice to drive and can potter along on soft suspension or in sports mode etc. The auto DSG box is incredible.0 -
Study is here I think (I was also interested): https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamapediatrics/fullarticle/2737637?guestAccessKey=5e4e41eb-ec96-4641-86f9-b5c89cc7cc48&utm_source=For_The_Media&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=ftm_links&utm_content=tfl&utm_term=070819DavidL said:
I would love to see a link to that if you have it.Philip_Thompson said:
I found interesting the report the other day that US states that have legalised cannabis have seen a 10% reduction in underage young people taking the drug.AndyJS said:It's interesting how so many people today are in favour of mind-altering drugs being legalised but are against free speech in case it offends people. I find that combination puzzling.
Licensed and legal outlets puts drug dealers out of business and while legal outlets have to ask for ID, drug dealers don't.
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Protections are good or bad depending on what you are protecting. The anti EU brigade accuse the EU of imposing trade barriers, although Brexit does that far more. But Brexit also means the loss of protections that people take for granted.ReggieCide said:
very crypticFF43 said:
The EU is a protectionist project, but not quite in the way that the antis realise.williamglenn said:0 -
@Dura_Ace trigger warning.malcolmg said:FPT
DavidL said:
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What did you get? I had had a series of A4s and their cost seemed to have gone from about £22k to £30k+. Nice cars but not worth that. It seemed to reflect the exchange rate changes more than general inflation though.
It was a Q5 S Line TDI40, took all the bells & whistles , everything but sunroof. Very nice to drive and can potter along on soft suspension or in sports mode etc. The auto DSG box is incredible.1 -
More pithy than my response. I mean you can't blame people for twisting and turning but that's the nub of it.AndyJS said:
We'll have to agree to disagree. I think if someones says private schools are wrong, they shouldn't send their own children to one.NickPalmer said:
I don't think it's at all hypocritical to say "The system loads the dice in favour of people whose families do X. Like everyone else I'll try to make sure my family doesn't lose out, but I think the system is wrong." The same applies to someone whose spouse is facing a 2-year waiting list for a hip replacement - they may (as Denis Healey did) say OK, I'll pay for you to go private, but that doesn't mean they suddenly think 2-year waiting lists are a good thing.felix said:
There is nothing to be guilty of in sending your child to a private school. There is a suggestion of hypocrisy however if you simultaneosly claim you want to abolish them. It's the old Labour mantra 'do as I say not as I do'.
The case is a little stronger when it comes to oneself - I've declined to have private medical treatment when something arose for that reason. But I don't think we should ask our families in the present be hostage to what we believe the future ought to be like.1 -
Your actually making the point for me that I tried to make by drawing that conclusion. He doesn’t want to nationalise private schools he wants to stop state schools being privatised through the academy route. The fact the mail can hang the fact thatAndyJS said:
We'll have to agree to disagree. I think if someones says private schools are wrong, they shouldn't send their own children to one.NickPalmer said:
I don't think it's at all hypocritical to say "The system loads the dice in favour of people whose families do X. Like everyone else I'll try to make sure my family doesn't lose out, but I think the system is wrong." The same applies to someone whose spouse is facing a 2-year waiting list for a hip replacement - they may (as Denis Healey did) say OK, I'll pay for you to go private, but that doesn't mean they suddenly think 2-year waiting lists are a good thing.felix said:
There is nothing to be guilty of in sending your child to a private school. There is a suggestion of hypocrisy however if you simultaneosly claim you want to abolish them. It's the old Labour mantra 'do as I say not as I do'.
The case is a little stronger when it comes to oneself - I've declined to have private medical treatment when something arose for that reason. But I don't think we should ask our families in the present be hostage to what we believe the future ought to be like.
the daughter goes to a private school just adds meat to the bone.0 -
Hypocrisy, noun:kinabalu said:
To hold the view that the private option should not be available but send your own child private is to place the welfare of your child above your political principles.felix said:There is nothing to be guilty of in sending your child to a private school. There is a suggestion of hypocrisy however if you simultaneosly claim you want to abolish them. It's the old Labour mantra 'do as I say not as I do'.
It is harsh and unfair to describe this as hypocrisy.
However, if you send your child private but attack others for doing the same, that IS hypocrisy.
"the practice of claiming to have higher standards or more noble beliefs than is the case."
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It was indeed, I thought I would treat myself. Thank you.DavidL said:
Wow. That's quite a few turnips! Congratulations.malcolmg said:FPT
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What did you get? I had had a series of A4s and their cost seemed to have gone from about £22k to £30k+. Nice cars but not worth that. It seemed to reflect the exchange rate changes more than general inflation though.
It was a Q5 S Line TDI40, took all the bells & whistles , everything but sunroof. Very nice to drive and can potter along on soft suspension or in sports mode etc. The auto DSG box is incredible.0 -
Hm, has I known turnip farming was so lucrative, I would have taken a different path in my lifemalcolmg said:
It was indeed, I thought I would treat myself. Thank you.DavidL said:
Wow. That's quite a few turnips! Congratulations.malcolmg said:FPT
DavidL said:
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What did you get? I had had a series of A4s and their cost seemed to have gone from about £22k to £30k+. Nice cars but not worth that. It seemed to reflect the exchange rate changes more than general inflation though.
It was a Q5 S Line TDI40, took all the bells & whistles , everything but sunroof. Very nice to drive and can potter along on soft suspension or in sports mode etc. The auto DSG box is incredible.0 -
First, UK Corporation tax rates are already low. Second, cutting rates can raise more revenue and third we may not need to cut much or at all if the EU forces Ireland up which they’ve been trying to do for years, with the UK robustly defending Ireland’s corner.Gallowgate said:
The British public are not going to vote for a manifesto promising to slash corporation tax rates at the expense of our already crumbling public services.CarlottaVance said:
Ireland won’t look so clever after UK Corporation tax rates are below theirs once the EU have “harmonised” them....williamglenn said:Trigger warning for @TGOHF
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I lean more to KInabalu's view than yours. One's own principles should come second to the welfare of one's children/family. Although I'm in favour of community schooling, we have grammar schools here and I was happy to apply for a place for our daughter.AndyJS said:
We'll have to agree to disagree. I think if someones says private schools are wrong, they shouldn't send their own children to one.NickPalmer said:
I don't think it's at all hypocritical to say "The system loads the dice in favour of people whose families do X. Like everyone else I'll try to make sure my family doesn't lose out, but I think the system is wrong." The same applies to someone whose spouse is facing a 2-year waiting list for a hip replacement - they may (as Denis Healey did) say OK, I'll pay for you to go private, but that doesn't mean they suddenly think 2-year waiting lists are a good thing.felix said:
There is nothing to be guilty of in sending your child to a private school. There is a suggestion of hypocrisy however if you simultaneosly claim you want to abolish them. It's the old Labour mantra 'do as I say not as I do'.
The case is a little stronger when it comes to oneself - I've declined to have private medical treatment when something arose for that reason. But I don't think we should ask our families in the present be hostage to what we believe the future ought to be like.
Another example is veganism: vegans shouldn't stop their children eating meat.0 -
Men's semis looking to be considerably more competitive than the womens..0