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Let's hold a referendum to see if we need another referendum.
What is terrible, is that there are worse ideas out there.
(is that a worser one ?)
No more likely than the old one will, I think.
Anyone with a passing acquaintance of the history of the six Counties would appreciate that a UK PM simply could not embark upon any negotiating route which could countenance or involve, if the negotiations took that turn, a return to a hard border or indeed any border infrastructure in NI.
CETA is based on mutual recognition of standards, zero tariffs and zero quotas. On this basis, why would there need to be a hard border? In fact, what customs checks would really be needed? Spot checks away from the border would easily take care of any remaining compliance issues.
The only blindspot is that you cannot see that the NI backstop was a negotiating device from the EU that May was only too eager to walk into, because it would allow her to rule out CETA and push for BINO.
https://techxplore.com/news/2018-07-norwegian-silicon-jackpot-battery-solution.html
Posted without comment!
(although the Guardian live blog has a good section on it at 13:22)
Parliament will not vote for May’s turd of a deal. Even if May wants a referendum, 100+ Brexiteers won’t vote for it. Neither will Corbyn, as he’ll say the proper course of action should be a general election, which won’t pass the Commons either.
No deal it is.
Good article on it here. By your side as well.
And May caved. Because she had to. To refer to a more profound, philosophical example, it's like this bit in The Rock.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v4pobX0ZnXI
In fact the way she's going she may not even be around at 20:22pm tonight!
I don't know if they'll release voting intentions, but they look like 41% each for Conservative and Labour, judging by the internal numbers.
http://www.digitalspy.com/movies/news/a861691/bruce-willis-answers-die-hard-christmas-movie/
As I posted in response to our man in Oz Archer, this is a good article on it. By Brexit Central of all people.
Of course, she might be forced into it if there's a full-on split and/or the DUP withdraw support. But other than that, a new PM will seek to stay until 2022. The argument 'we've had enough elections for now; let's focus on the day job' will have some sympathy.
It will do to Leavers what the Winter of Discontent did to Labour.
No food, meds, trade, and planes ensures the UK rejoining.
Bring it on.
Short term pain for long term gain.
Although, in her own way, she hasn't half nailed the problem with British politics at the moment: too many people with a passion for the unworkable.
It's a good idea not to gamble, unless you can tolerate losing.
We seem to have quite a few Leavers who have left. I, as a Remainer, am of course, still in the UK
No deal Brexit means lots of austerity then.
I can live with that.
The binary question will be something like: Do you agree for the government to enter negotiations for full membership of the European Union? Yes/No?
By this point, without hindrance from the UK for the last 20 years the EU will be a fully fledged Federal state; armed forces, single currency, single diplomatic service and civil service and capital then in Paris or Berlin. Acceptance of all of this (no cherry picking) will be required.
Result 52% Yes, 48% No. What fun!!!
https://twitter.com/guardian/status/1018852996623585280?s=21
Hubris down the ages.
Though of course it does depend on i) how stupid and ii) how possessed of self-belief May's successor is......so I wouldn't rule it out entirely.....
https://twitter.com/guardian/status/1018852996623585280
MPs decided May's crock of shit deal stinks
They vote it down
Brexiteers rejoice
Remain majority in Commons do not
Blue and red Remainers decide the British people entitled to a say as 'no deal' wasn't part of the official Leave campaign
Voting rushed through
Article 50 suspended to permit six months(ish) for campaign
Referendum occurs
At least half the country is pissed off with the result
Political and/or economic turmoil ensues
Losing side blames victors for everything that goes wrong over the next 30 years
Too late now sunshine...
https://www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/queen-s-ladyinwaiting-plays-donald-trump-at-his-own-game-with-power-handshake-a3888311.html
https://twitter.com/guardian/status/1018858803159281666
Titters...
“I would have to go back and look at everything I said and think whether that was the right response at the right time. There is a sense at the back of my mind that we didn’t get everything absolutely right. It’s a difficult one.”"
GUARDIAN : "GOVE DISAVOWS EVERYTHING EVER "
You know, they could just do a Facebook poll...
i do find it odd that you say that the UK is using (or could use) NI as leverage when NI *is part of the UK*. It's the EU which is trying to use NI as leverage.
In any case, how is the agreement enforced if talks break down to such an extent that there is no deal?
https://twitter.com/khanur1983/status/1018458076297486337?s=21
https://ukdefencejournal.org.uk/uk-unveils-new-next-generation-fighter-jet-called-tempest/
Why is Salmond too feeble to put his own name to the statement?
Speaking of which, just had another look and the markets still aren't up.
Remains credible that we'll see the far right rise. Must hope it doesn't happen but we should be aware of the possibility.
'The Conservative minister was asked by Tom Baldwin, a former communications director for Ed Miliband, in his book Ctrl Alt Delete whether he had been happy making appeals to “some very low sentiments” in the context of concerns over Turkish immigration. The minister replied: “I know what you mean, yes. If it had been left entirely to me the leave campaign would have a slightly different feel.
“I would have to go back and look at everything I said and think whether that was the right response at the right time. There is a sense at the back of my mind that we didn’t get everything absolutely right. It’s a difficult one.”'
http://www.heraldscotland.com/news/14845547.Salmond_publishing_firm_has_almost___100_000_cash/
This link about a different company, but Sláinte Media has the same sole director.
https://twitter.com/sharonwit/status/1018258000816103425
'some very fine people on both sides'
https://twitter.com/ThimontJack/status/1018829843239243776
https://twitter.com/faisalislam/status/1018862265687334912
I am so, so glad we sold our business when we did. It's going to get very ugly in the UK over the next few years.
https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/brexit-resignations-pps-theresa-may_uk_5b4c8401e4b0e7c958fd42bf