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So it's Ramadan again, and once again Israel is attacking helpless Palestinians. They have been doing this every summer for the past few years with impunity.0
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That's useful; many thanks.Morris_Dancer said:Mr. Voter, last season the Ladbrokes Exchange sometimes had interesting specials on F1. I've used it sometimes to hedge bets.
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More like the ring of Ruth.Theuniondivvie said:'Sturgeon isolated'
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I imagine that he would reinstate the Tudor penalties for begging.rottenborough said:
DWP?Freggles said:If Theresa May really, REALLY wants to tank JRM's chances of getting power, she should give him a big, serious job in the Cabinet and watch as he crumbles just like Boris.
It's easy to be an ideological purist when it's all theoretical.
He'd attempt to have disabled welfare claimants scrubbing the decks of hulk ships in preparation for holding illegal migrants.0 -
Proportionate force.david_herdson said:
Violent protest should be met by force. Israel is entirely within its rights to do what is has done.....Roger said:
Do you approve of the slaughter of Palestinians?felix said:I see that Stop the War are to protest against the Palestinian deaths - it's good to see such a quick response as with their protests against Russia and Syria....
There is at the very least a question as to whether shooting dead over forty and wounding hundreds is proportionate.0 -
Lol, the SJW's will eat themselves. What they are advocating for taken to it's full extent is cultural and racial segregation. Too much "equality" will lead to too much inequality.FrancisUrquhart said:
Careful, people will start accusing you of being a closet alt-right supporter and worshipper of the stupid man's idea of an intelligent individual...nunuone said:Hear, hear!
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Rees Mogg is 49 later this month - the same age at which Neville Chamberlain first became an MP.rural_voter said:
Too late for now unless there's another scandal soon but Home Secretary or Minister of State would prepare him for a high-flying career.Benpointer said:
Or maybe he could replace Penny Mordaunt as Minister for Women and Equalities to let her concentrate on International Development?TheScreamingEagles said:
I nearly published a thread late last year suggesting Mrs May made JRM Secretary of State for Northern Ireland.Freggles said:If Theresa May really, REALLY wants to tank JRM's chances of getting power, she should give him a big, serious job in the Cabinet and watch as he crumbles just like Boris.
It's easy to be an ideological purist when it's all theoretical.
He's already about 47. At that age Harold Wilson was PM.0 -
Give me more time to pickwick through my papers - right now my head's all chuzzlewitted!Nigelb said:
I have a hard time believing you can't do better than that; so much for my great expectations...felix said:
Brings a new Twist to the PB discourse.Nigelb said:
We really are channelling Dickens this afternoon...rottenborough said:
DWP?Freggles said:If Theresa May really, REALLY wants to tank JRM's chances of getting power, she should give him a big, serious job in the Cabinet and watch as he crumbles just like Boris.
It's easy to be an ideological purist when it's all theoretical.
He'd attempt to have disabled welfare claimants scrubbing the decks of hulk ships in preparation for holding illegal migrants.0 -
If Daniel Hannan is saying this, surely the game is almost up.
https://m.huffingtonpost.co.uk/amp/entry/tory-brexiteer-daniel-hannan-backs-second-eu-referendum-if-mps-vote-for-customs-union_uk_5af98104e4b0e57cd9fba70a/0 -
Jordan Peterson was a total nobody until the SJW went total nuts on his objection to state sanctioned enforcement of gender neutral pronouns. He has some quite odd ideas, but on this stuff he generally talks a lot of sense.nunuone said:
Lol, the SJW's will eat themselves. What they are advocating for taken to it's full extent is cultural and racial segregation. Too much "equality" will lead to too much inequality.FrancisUrquhart said:
Careful, people will start accusing you of being a closet alt-right supporter and worshipper of the stupid man's idea of an intelligent individual...nunuone said:Hear, hear!
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Mr. Voter, np.
As I said, I've used it now and then for F1, and it used to have specials (things like team X to have double points finishes and team Y to not be classified etc), so they might do that for other markets.
Mr. One, precisely. The same idiots utterly oppose segregation, even to the extent of wanting a borderless world, whilst at the same seeking to absolutely impose it in a cultural sense. People can live wherever they like, but only Chinese women can wear Chinese dresses.
It's nuts.
The re-writing of history is an especial brand of inaccurate nonsense.
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Mr. Glenn, if we do have another referendum I hope it's soon (got a small bet on).0
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The Israeli military doesn't really believe in or practice the propotionate use of force. As the odds have many times been stacked against Israel this is not necessarily a bad policy in itself. Of course this is why it is so important for other states to avoid provocative actions that can lead to protests and conflict between the Palestinian and Israeli peoples, unfortunately the White House is currently occupied by a total fucking moron.Nigelb said:Proportionate force.
There is at the very least a question as to whether shooting dead over forty and wounding hundreds is proportionate.0 -
What should the west do? Invade Israel and assist Hezbollah in its destruction? Israel has a right to defend its borders.FeersumEnjineeya said:
I did not ignore your point. My post directly addressed your point. To repeat: one reason that Israel's actions arouse such ire is the fact that the response of our own and other western governments to them is so half-hearted. When Arab countries defy UN resolutions, they get invaded; Israel gets a finger-wagging at most. This kind of favouritism makes people angry.felix said:
In the case of Israel the atrocities you refer to are unproven. Note I do not offer an opinion on them and accept there is much amiss in the current Israeli government. However, they have free and fair elections so the government is legitimate which is more than can be said for the two you mention. My actual point which you ignore relates to the STW organisation and their selectivity in which 'wars' they choose to protest. with regard to the UK I think they take a fair line on Israel and remain wedded to the 2 state solution. I'm not convinced that Hamas and Hezbollah support that. Indeed they are committed to the destruction of the state of Israel which in part explains the Israeli attitudes to threats on their borders.FeersumEnjineeya said:
One reason for the protests is surely the supine attitude of our government with regard to Israel's behaviour. Atrocities carried out by the Russian and Syrian governments are rightly met with sanctions and, in the latter case, threats of military intervention. Israel, on the hand, appears able to commit atrocities with impunity. Why does Israel get a green light to do as it pleases, while other countries attract punishment for their evil-doing?felix said:I see that Stop the War are to protest against the Palestinian deaths - it's good to see such a quick response as with their protests against Russia and Syria....
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Stonethrowers vs snipers is never going to look like a level killing field, though, nor is a 44-0 scoreline. Rubber bullets? Water cannon?felix said:
What should the west do? Invade Israel and assist Hezbollah in its destruction? Israel has a right to defend its borders.FeersumEnjineeya said:
I did not ignore your point. My post directly addressed your point. To repeat: one reason that Israel's actions arouse such ire is the fact that the response of our own and other western governments to them is so half-hearted. When Arab countries defy UN resolutions, they get invaded; Israel gets a finger-wagging at most. This kind of favouritism makes people angry.felix said:
In the case of Israel the atrocities you refer to are unproven. Note I do not offer an opinion on them and accept there is much amiss in the current Israeli government. However, they have free and fair elections so the government is legitimate which is more than can be said for the two you mention. My actual point which you ignore relates to the STW organisation and their selectivity in which 'wars' they choose to protest. with regard to the UK I think they take a fair line on Israel and remain wedded to the 2 state solution. I'm not convinced that Hamas and Hezbollah support that. Indeed they are committed to the destruction of the state of Israel which in part explains the Israeli attitudes to threats on their borders.FeersumEnjineeya said:
One reason for the protests is surely the supine attitude of our government with regard to Israel's behaviour. Atrocities carried out by the Russian and Syrian governments are rightly met with sanctions and, in the latter case, threats of military intervention. Israel, on the hand, appears able to commit atrocities with impunity. Why does Israel get a green light to do as it pleases, while other countries attract punishment for their evil-doing?felix said:I see that Stop the War are to protest against the Palestinian deaths - it's good to see such a quick response as with their protests against Russia and Syria....
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Well a friend of mine who was both a Christian and a Marxist said the correct translation of the render unto Caesar quote was 'give the Romans what's coming to them'.Sean_F said:
That is true. Render unto Caesar that which is Caesar's.Nigelb said:
He's on record as disapproving of tax dodging...Sean_F said:
Jesus had very little to say about modern politics.Scott_P said:
He's about as authentic as SPAMrottenborough said:his supposed "authenticity" is a winner.
https://twitter.com/JamesMelville/status/995037243470426112
And marched alongside various "community leaders" in Northern Ireland, during protests against the Anglo Irish Agreement.TheScreamingEagles said:
Bercow used to get tumescent at the very mention of Enoch Powell.RobD said:
He’s certainly been on a journey.TheScreamingEagles said:
I’m sure he still believes in his Monday Club policies of forced repatriation of non whites.Sean_F said:
His views have altered radicallylogical_song said:
He was a Tory MP was he not?Sean_F said:
O/T if Bercow does step down as Speaker, will he take the Labour whip?
He used to sing anti Catholic songs too.0 -
This victimhood mantra doesn't seem to be working for the Palestinians.nunuone said:So it's Ramadan again, and once again Israel is attacking helpless Palestinians. They have been doing this every summer for the past few years with impunity.
Perhaps they should try a negotiated approach ?0 -
Enter into a Customs Partnership with Israel?TGOHF said:
This victimhood mantra doesn't seem to be working for the Palestinians.nunuone said:So it's Ramadan again, and once again Israel is attacking helpless Palestinians. They have been doing this every summer for the past few years with impunity.
Perhaps they should try a negotiated approach ?0 -
Yes - only a protectionist trade cartel with a single currency can create peace in a region.not_on_fire said:
Enter into a Customs Partnership with Israel?TGOHF said:
This victimhood mantra doesn't seem to be working for the Palestinians.nunuone said:So it's Ramadan again, and once again Israel is attacking helpless Palestinians. They have been doing this every summer for the past few years with impunity.
Perhaps they should try a negotiated approach ?
This was proved by Jacques Delors.
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Not a great role-model to be following.david_herdson said:
Rees Mogg is 49 later this month - the same age at which Neville Chamberlain first became an MP.rural_voter said:
Too late for now unless there's another scandal soon but Home Secretary or Minister of State would prepare him for a high-flying career.Benpointer said:
Or maybe he could replace Penny Mordaunt as Minister for Women and Equalities to let her concentrate on International Development?TheScreamingEagles said:
I nearly published a thread late last year suggesting Mrs May made JRM Secretary of State for Northern Ireland.Freggles said:If Theresa May really, REALLY wants to tank JRM's chances of getting power, she should give him a big, serious job in the Cabinet and watch as he crumbles just like Boris.
It's easy to be an ideological purist when it's all theoretical.
He's already about 47. At that age Harold Wilson was PM.0 -
Of course that happens both ways. Western movies are completely white affairs, when there were actually a lot of black and east Asian cowboys.Morris_Dancer said:Mr. Voter, np.
As I said, I've used it now and then for F1, and it used to have specials (things like team X to have double points finishes and team Y to not be classified etc), so they might do that for other markets.
Mr. One, precisely. The same idiots utterly oppose segregation, even to the extent of wanting a borderless world, whilst at the same seeking to absolutely impose it in a cultural sense. People can live wherever they like, but only Chinese women can wear Chinese dresses.
It's nuts.
The re-writing of history is an especial brand of inaccurate nonsense.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OZH35n7SxW80 -
Mr. Elliot, that's true, although I was amused to read that the Magnificent Seven remake apparently had a multi-racial crew of heroes. And an all-white set of villains
For comedy/entertainment I'm pretty relaxed, but for history having black Picts is just dumb. Your might as well have white Numidians.0 -
In the passage cited, it does seem as if "gammon" is used in the contemporary sense of a jingo apoplectic at the modern state of affairs.Nigelb said:
Though meaning, I believe, was 'nonsense' - as in "gammon and spinach".Scott_P said:
QV Miss Flite's pet birds in Bleak House- named “Hope, Joy, Youth, Peace, Rest, Life, Dust, Ashes, Waste, Want, Ruin, Despair, Madness, Death, Cunning, Folly, Words, Wigs, Rags, Sheepskin, Plunder, Precedent, Jargon, Gammon, and Spinach.”
(Edit - I always wondered what 'Sheepskin' was doing in there...)0 -
Sajid Javid was third in the last Conservative Home Tory members poll and seems to be having a rapid John Major like rise after being made Home Secretary. Rees Mogg still has a chance if he gets enough MPs to get to the final two but Javid v Gove as the final two to be sent to the membership by MPs now looks possible0
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Hezbollah could import goods on Israel’s behalf, calculate custom duties, and then send them onto Israel. With explosives attached.TGOHF said:
Yes - only a protectionist trade cartel with a single currency can create peace in a region.not_on_fire said:
Enter into a Customs Partnership with Israel?TGOHF said:
This victimhood mantra doesn't seem to be working for the Palestinians.nunuone said:So it's Ramadan again, and once again Israel is attacking helpless Palestinians. They have been doing this every summer for the past few years with impunity.
Perhaps they should try a negotiated approach ?
This was proved by Jacques Delors.0 -
I don’t think there’s any doubt that there were African legionaries and certainly there were Auxilaries from all over the EmpireMorris_Dancer said:Mr. Elliot, that's true, although I was amused to read that the Magnificent Seven remake apparently had a multi-racial crew of heroes. And an all-white set of villains
For comedy/entertainment I'm pretty relaxed, but for history having black Picts is just dumb. Your might as well have white Numidians.
However, I don’t that it was easy to tell what skin colour the Picts had originally, given the amount of paint they used. Although of course they were probably basically a sort of dirty pink.0 -
Plus the reported conference at which the UK will encourage six smaller European countries to join the EU ... no doubt for peace, security and economic cooperation. Now we need Farage and Banks to comment: 'If this is leave, we may as well remain' which would complete the picture.williamglenn said:If Daniel Hannan is saying this, surely the game is almost up.
https://m.huffingtonpost.co.uk/amp/entry/tory-brexiteer-daniel-hannan-backs-second-eu-referendum-if-mps-vote-for-customs-union_uk_5af98104e4b0e57cd9fba70a/0 -
Probably enough Dickens for now.felix said:
Give me more time to pickwick through my papers - right now my head's all chuzzlewitted!Nigelb said:
I have a hard time believing you can't do better than that; so much for my great expectations...felix said:
Brings a new Twist to the PB discourse.Nigelb said:
We really are channelling Dickens this afternoon...rottenborough said:
DWP?Freggles said:If Theresa May really, REALLY wants to tank JRM's chances of getting power, she should give him a big, serious job in the Cabinet and watch as he crumbles just like Boris.
It's easy to be an ideological purist when it's all theoretical.
He'd attempt to have disabled welfare claimants scrubbing the decks of hulk ships in preparation for holding illegal migrants.
The lawyers here might take a Jarndyced view....
...which could go on for ever.0 -
One less existential threat to the Israeli state.
https://twitter.com/alexbkane/status/9959983906925731840 -
King Cole, there were African legionaries. However, they're north African, not sub-Saharan, and the numbers (bearing in mind the Empire was vast at that stage in history) would've been in the minority. Those from Carthaginian cities were of Liby-Phoenician ethnicity. Plus, much of the officer class, if memory serves, were simply Romans who dwelt in Africa.
The video indicates that black people were shown amongst the Picts, as priests in Britain etc. The only white officer was wicked. All the slaves were white. It's rewriting history.
I do think more leeway is fine with entertainment. But when presenting historical programmes then accuracy is of critical importance. Imposing modern political and social norms on what happened two thousand years ago, is bloody stupid. Reminds me of people complaining that Kingdom Come Deliverance (set in a few square miles of Bohemia in 1403) didn't have any black people.
As an aside, those who enjoyed KCD should keep their eyes peeled. An Egyptian studio is developing a game set in medieval Arabia. Unless it includes Outremer (depending on the century, of course) I'm not anticipating a huge number of white guys:
https://twitter.com/DanarKayfi/status/9862357904925122570 -
What were they thinking? Boggles the mind.Theuniondivvie said:One less existential threat to the Israeli state.
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There were African emperors: Septimius Severus was of part Libyan descent.OldKingCole said:
I don’t think there’s any doubt that there were African legionaries and certainly there were Auxilaries from all over the EmpireMorris_Dancer said:Mr. Elliot, that's true, although I was amused to read that the Magnificent Seven remake apparently had a multi-racial crew of heroes. And an all-white set of villains
For comedy/entertainment I'm pretty relaxed, but for history having black Picts is just dumb. Your might as well have white Numidians.
However, I don’t that it was easy to tell what skin colour the Picts had originally, given the amount of paint they used. Although of course they were probably basically a sort of dirty pink.0 -
LOL, HUFFYD will be on soon to say Ruth will be First Minister as SNP support is waning.Theuniondivvie said:'Sturgeon isolated'
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That's dinner cancelledwilliamglenn said:
More like the ring of Ruth.Theuniondivvie said:'Sturgeon isolated'
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David Miliband doesn't look any older than he did in 2010.0
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Yes , and snipers shooting unarmed people, it is criminal. They should be up at the Hague for war crimes.Nigelb said:
Proportionate force.david_herdson said:
Violent protest should be met by force. Israel is entirely within its rights to do what is has done.....Roger said:
Do you approve of the slaughter of Palestinians?felix said:I see that Stop the War are to protest against the Palestinian deaths - it's good to see such a quick response as with their protests against Russia and Syria....
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Well he would be succeeding the modern day equivalent of Neville Chamberlain!david_herdson said:
Rees Mogg is 49 later this month - the same age at which Neville Chamberlain first became an MP.rural_voter said:
Too late for now unless there's another scandal soon but Home Secretary or Minister of State would prepare him for a high-flying career.Benpointer said:
Or maybe he could replace Penny Mordaunt as Minister for Women and Equalities to let her concentrate on International Development?TheScreamingEagles said:
I nearly published a thread late last year suggesting Mrs May made JRM Secretary of State for Northern Ireland.Freggles said:If Theresa May really, REALLY wants to tank JRM's chances of getting power, she should give him a big, serious job in the Cabinet and watch as he crumbles just like Boris.
It's easy to be an ideological purist when it's all theoretical.
He's already about 47. At that age Harold Wilson was PM.0 -
Palestinian health officials said 52 people were killed along the Gaza border, including six children under the age of 18. The youngest fatality appeared to be a 14-year-old boy named Ezzaldeen al-sammak. More than 1,200 others were shot and wounded during Monday’s protests, according to the Palestinian health ministry.0
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Hunt is currently being investigated by the Parliamentary Commissioner for Standards for potentially breaching the House of Commons Code of Conduct.TheScreamingEagles said:More crucially Jeremy Hunt has publicly denounced and bitch slapped the antics of Bonking Boris.
Like JRM we’ve seen peak Boris.
Hunt looks and acts so Prime Ministerial. Hope you all got on at 100/1 and 66/1.
https://economia.icaew.com/en/news/april-2018/jeremy-hunt-under-investigation-by-parliamentary-watchdog
If the Commissioner funds against him he will not even be in the Cabinet let alone a leadership contender
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He's a human shield you see.Theuniondivvie said:One less existential threat to the Israeli state.
https://twitter.com/alexbkane/status/995998390692573184
Israel is disgusting.0 -
Not happening. Both Tory MPs and members oppose one and May us much more cautious now.Scott_P said:
Indeed the current 'gold standard' Survation poll gives a 1% Tory lead ie exactly thr same as their final 2017 GE poll and thus rendering another snap general election utterly pointless as it would produce exactly the same result0 -
The fact the SNP has to scrape together support from the Scottish LDs and Scottish Labour on this is enough to confirm thatmalcolmg said:
LOL, HUFFYD will be on soon to say Ruth will be First Minister as SNP support is waning.Theuniondivvie said:'Sturgeon isolated'
https://twitter.com/STVColin/status/9960387342599331840 -
LOL, you never disappoint, 116 to 13 is a real scrape for sureHYUFD said:
The fact the SNP has to scrape together support from the Scottish LDs and Scottish Labour on this is enough to confirm thatmalcolmg said:
LOL, HUFFYD will be on soon to say Ruth will be First Minister as SNP support is waning.Theuniondivvie said:'Sturgeon isolated'
https://twitter.com/STVColin/status/9960387342599331840 -
And there's more:rural_voter said:
Plus the reported conference at which the UK will encourage six smaller European countries to join the EU ... no doubt for peace, security and economic cooperation. Now we need Farage and Banks to comment: 'If this is leave, we may as well remain' which would complete the picture.williamglenn said:If Daniel Hannan is saying this, surely the game is almost up.
https://m.huffingtonpost.co.uk/amp/entry/tory-brexiteer-daniel-hannan-backs-second-eu-referendum-if-mps-vote-for-customs-union_uk_5af98104e4b0e57cd9fba70a/
https://news.sky.com/story/brexit-is-precisely-what-vladimir-putin-wants-to-see-11372445
"Brexit is precisely what Vladimir Putin wants to see"
"...the UK's spy chief has warned Europe must become more united"0 -
Of course.HYUFD said:
The fact the SNP has to scrape together support from the Scottish LDs and Scottish Labour on this is enough to confirm thatmalcolmg said:
LOL, HUFFYD will be on soon to say Ruth will be First Minister as SNP support is waning.Theuniondivvie said:'Sturgeon isolated'
https://twitter.com/STVColin/status/996038734259933184
The SNP & supporting parties representing 70% of Scottish voters = scraping together support
The Cons & DUP representing 43% of UK voters = strong and stable0 -
Cons got 43% of GB support at the last general election, 6% more than the 37% of Scottish support the SNP gotTheuniondivvie said:
Of course.HYUFD said:
The fact the SNP has to scrape together support from the Scottish LDs and Scottish Labour on this is enough to confirm thatmalcolmg said:
LOL, HUFFYD will be on soon to say Ruth will be First Minister as SNP support is waning.Theuniondivvie said:'Sturgeon isolated'
https://twitter.com/STVColin/status/996038734259933184
The SNP & supporting parties representing 70% of Scottish voters = scraping together support
The Cons & DUP representing 43% of UK voters = strong and stable0 -
No one believes all do. But since people seem to be more likely to be lefty when younger, a shift to the right is thus more likely.Benpointer said:
Another example of how we all turn to the right as we get older. Oh...Sean_F said:
His views have altered radicallylogical_song said:
He was a Tory MP was he not?Sean_F said:
O/T if Bercow does step down as Speaker, will he take the Labour whip?0 -
The 5 votes in the Supreme Court are likely to be more telling in this particular instance.Theuniondivvie said:
Of course.HYUFD said:
The fact the SNP has to scrape together support from the Scottish LDs and Scottish Labour on this is enough to confirm thatmalcolmg said:
LOL, HUFFYD will be on soon to say Ruth will be First Minister as SNP support is waning.Theuniondivvie said:'Sturgeon isolated'
https://twitter.com/STVColin/status/996038734259933184
The SNP & supporting parties representing 70% of Scottish voters = scraping together support
The Cons & DUP representing 43% of UK voters = strong and stable0 -
Hamas has a role to play in this, despite the disproportionate response. Why on earth do they keep telling their people to attack the border, despite knowing Israel will use massive violence to defend it?nunuone said:
He's a human shield you see.Theuniondivvie said:One less existential threat to the Israeli state.
https://twitter.com/alexbkane/status/995998390692573184
Israel is disgusting.
Stupid. Dangerous. Negligent.0 -
Usual Tory numbers compare 60+ million to 5M to justify more votes, who would have believed it. Had to bribe DUP to even get over the line, how low can Tories get.HYUFD said:
Cons got 43% of GB support at the last general election, 6% more than the 37% of Scottish support the SNP gotTheuniondivvie said:
Of course.HYUFD said:
The fact the SNP has to scrape together support from the Scottish LDs and Scottish Labour on this is enough to confirm thatmalcolmg said:
LOL, HUFFYD will be on soon to say Ruth will be First Minister as SNP support is waning.Theuniondivvie said:'Sturgeon isolated'
https://twitter.com/STVColin/status/996038734259933184
The SNP & supporting parties representing 70% of Scottish voters = scraping together support
The Cons & DUP representing 43% of UK voters = strong and stable0 -
Indeed the Tories have not won 18 to 24s since 1983 and Labour have not won pensioners since 1997kle4 said:
No one believes all do. But since people seem to be more likely to be lefty when younger, a shift to the right is thus more likely.Benpointer said:
Another example of how we all turn to the right as we get older. Oh...Sean_F said:
His views have altered radicallylogical_song said:
He was a Tory MP was he not?Sean_F said:
O/T if Bercow does step down as Speaker, will he take the Labour whip?
https://www.ipsos.com/ipsos-mori/en-uk/how-britain-voted-october-19740 -
David, Is that the Westminster lackeys you are talking about. Old boys club will vote for their pockets.DavidL said:
The 5 votes in the Supreme Court are likely to be more telling in this particular instance.Theuniondivvie said:
Of course.HYUFD said:
The fact the SNP has to scrape together support from the Scottish LDs and Scottish Labour on this is enough to confirm thatmalcolmg said:
LOL, HUFFYD will be on soon to say Ruth will be First Minister as SNP support is waning.Theuniondivvie said:'Sturgeon isolated'
https://twitter.com/STVColin/status/996038734259933184
The SNP & supporting parties representing 70% of Scottish voters = scraping together support
The Cons & DUP representing 43% of UK voters = strong and stable0 -
In the context of the American West, that’s not entirely inappropriate, Mr.D.Morris_Dancer said:Mr. Elliot, that's true, although I was amused to read that the Magnificent Seven remake apparently had a multi-racial crew of heroes. And an all-white set of villains.....
And the Magnificent Seven was itself a remake of a Japanese original...
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That would be the Supreme Court who gave the government such a hard time about the Gina Miller case, Malcolm. I have little doubt that they will support the view of the Presiding Officer of the Scottish Parliament who has already ruled the bill ultra vires. Having spent so long fighting for a Scottish Parliament it is disappointing that so many parties are not minded to take better care of it.malcolmg said:
David, Is that the Westminster lackeys you are talking about. Old boys club will vote for their pockets.DavidL said:
The 5 votes in the Supreme Court are likely to be more telling in this particular instance.Theuniondivvie said:
Of course.HYUFD said:
The fact the SNP has to scrape together support from the Scottish LDs and Scottish Labour on this is enough to confirm thatmalcolmg said:
LOL, HUFFYD will be on soon to say Ruth will be First Minister as SNP support is waning.Theuniondivvie said:'Sturgeon isolated'
https://twitter.com/STVColin/status/996038734259933184
The SNP & supporting parties representing 70% of Scottish voters = scraping together support
The Cons & DUP representing 43% of UK voters = strong and stable0 -
Henry Thoreau interpreted it as give the Caesar nothing, because Caesar is entitled to nothing. But, I'd interpret it to mean that the State is entitled to its due, but not to compel you to do things that are positively unChristian.Recidivist said:
Well a friend of mine who was both a Christian and a Marxist said the correct translation of the render unto Caesar quote was 'give the Romans what's coming to them'.Sean_F said:
That is true. Render unto Caesar that which is Caesar's.Nigelb said:
He's on record as disapproving of tax dodging...Sean_F said:
Jesus had very little to say about modern politics.Scott_P said:
He's about as authentic as SPAMrottenborough said:his supposed "authenticity" is a winner.
https://twitter.com/JamesMelville/status/995037243470426112
And marched alongside various "community leaders" in Northern Ireland, during protests against the Anglo Irish Agreement.TheScreamingEagles said:
Bercow used to get tumescent at the very mention of Enoch Powell.RobD said:
He’s certainly been on a journey.TheScreamingEagles said:
I’m sure he still believes in his Monday Club policies of forced repatriation of non whites.Sean_F said:
His views have altered radicallylogical_song said:
He was a Tory MP was he not?Sean_F said:
O/T if Bercow does step down as Speaker, will he take the Labour whip?
He used to sing anti Catholic songs too.
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There probably were black African soldiers, as barbarians did seek their fortunes in the Empire, but they would have been a tiny proportion of the whole.Morris_Dancer said:King Cole, there were African legionaries. However, they're north African, not sub-Saharan, and the numbers (bearing in mind the Empire was vast at that stage in history) would've been in the minority. Those from Carthaginian cities were of Liby-Phoenician ethnicity. Plus, much of the officer class, if memory serves, were simply Romans who dwelt in Africa.
The video indicates that black people were shown amongst the Picts, as priests in Britain etc. The only white officer was wicked. All the slaves were white. It's rewriting history.
I do think more leeway is fine with entertainment. But when presenting historical programmes then accuracy is of critical importance. Imposing modern political and social norms on what happened two thousand years ago, is bloody stupid. Reminds me of people complaining that Kingdom Come Deliverance (set in a few square miles of Bohemia in 1403) didn't have any black people.
As an aside, those who enjoyed KCD should keep their eyes peeled. An Egyptian studio is developing a game set in medieval Arabia. Unless it includes Outremer (depending on the century, of course) I'm not anticipating a huge number of white guys:
https://twitter.com/DanarKayfi/status/9862357904925122570 -
Labour Friends Of Israel MPs mainly remarkably silent.
More Civillians killed today than in the Syria Chemical Weapons attack.
Wheres the Early Day Motion?
Wheres the calls for Military responses?
Wheres the outrage?0 -
BTW did Mackinlay's trial start today? This is not a government that can afford to lose MPs.-1
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But not a Hamas war crime, as the Israeli UN ambassador is currently trying to portray it on C4 news.Gallowgate said:
Hamas has a role to play in this, despite the disproportionate response. Why on earth do they keep telling their people to attack the border, despite knowing Israel will use massive violence to defend it?nunuone said:
He's a human shield you see.Theuniondivvie said:One less existential threat to the Israeli state.
https://twitter.com/alexbkane/status/995998390692573184
Israel is disgusting.
Stupid. Dangerous. Negligent.
Strangely he seems extremely unenthusiastic about a proposed independent UN enquiry into exactly where the war crime is occurring here.0 -
Surely that is all Corbyn's job?bigjohnowls said:Labour Friends Of Israel MPs mainly remarkably silent.
More Civillians killed today than in the Syria Chemical Weapons attack.
Wheres the Early Day Motion?
Wheres the calls for Military responses?
Wheres the outrage?0 -
Yes, let's all blame the victim - yep it's all the Palestinians' fault.Gallowgate said:
Hamas has a role to play in this, despite the disproportionate response. Why on earth do they keep telling their people to attack the border, despite knowing Israel will use massive violence to defend it?nunuone said:
He's a human shield you see.Theuniondivvie said:One less existential threat to the Israeli state.
https://twitter.com/alexbkane/status/995998390692573184
Israel is disgusting.
Stupid. Dangerous. Negligent.
When will the British Government actually stand up for what is right. Will this lame Tory Government and stand up and condemn Israel for the merciless killing of civilians including children?
Israel has shown that it is nothing more than pariah nation. Yes, the catalyst is Trump but Israel has again shown it's true colours.
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Postponed for legal reasons with no new date.DavidL said:BTW did Mackinlay's trial start today? This is not a government that can afford to lose MPs.
The reason is obvious, he didn’t want the verdict to be announced whilst Mike was on holiday.0 -
"BBC Trending
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I think the people are desperate now. It's been an open air prison for years now. I don't think they need Hamas to tell them to do anything, they would be doing it anyway.Gallowgate said:
Hamas has a role to play in this, despite the disproportionate response. Why on earth do they keep telling their people to attack the border, despite knowing Israel will use massive violence to defend it?nunuone said:
He's a human shield you see.Theuniondivvie said:One less existential threat to the Israeli state.
https://twitter.com/alexbkane/status/995998390692573184
Israel is disgusting.
Stupid. Dangerous. Negligent.
But anyway we should be holding Israel to much higher standards then Hamas, instead of both sidesism,-1 -
Imagine if asian audience members were called "brownies".AndyJS said:"BBC Trending
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in our system vote share is vanity, seats are sanity.HYUFD said:
Cons got 43% of GB support at the last general election, 6% more than the 37% of Scottish support the SNP gotTheuniondivvie said:
Of course.HYUFD said:
The fact the SNP has to scrape together support from the Scottish LDs and Scottish Labour on this is enough to confirm thatmalcolmg said:
LOL, HUFFYD will be on soon to say Ruth will be First Minister as SNP support is waning.Theuniondivvie said:'Sturgeon isolated'
https://twitter.com/STVColin/status/996038734259933184
The SNP & supporting parties representing 70% of Scottish voters = scraping together support
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Very sound tactics on his part. It is hard not to get the feeling that this is wandering off into the long grass where it may eventually quietly die.TheScreamingEagles said:
Postponed for legal reasons with no new date.DavidL said:BTW did Mackinlay's trial start today? This is not a government that can afford to lose MPs.
The reason is obvious, he didn’t want the verdict to be announced whilst Mike was on holiday.0 -
Peaceful Protesters mowed down Over 1000 in the buffer Zone not even at the border suffer gunshot wounds
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What is Israel supposed to about Gaza, in general?nunuone said:
I think the people are desperate now. It's been an open air prison for years now. I don't think they need Hamas to tell them to do anything, they would be doing it anyway.Gallowgate said:
Hamas has a role to play in this, despite the disproportionate response. Why on earth do they keep telling their people to attack the border, despite knowing Israel will use massive violence to defend it?nunuone said:
He's a human shield you see.Theuniondivvie said:One less existential threat to the Israeli state.
https://twitter.com/alexbkane/status/995998390692573184
Israel is disgusting.
Stupid. Dangerous. Negligent.
But anyway we should be holding Israel to much higher standards then Hamas, instead of both sidesism,0 -
If they wanted they could have implemented a two state solution by now.Sean_F said:
What is Israel supposed to about Gaza, in general?nunuone said:
I think the people are desperate now. It's been an open air prison for years now. I don't think they need Hamas to tell them to do anything, they would be doing it anyway.Gallowgate said:
Hamas has a role to play in this, despite the disproportionate response. Why on earth do they keep telling their people to attack the border, despite knowing Israel will use massive violence to defend it?nunuone said:
He's a human shield you see.Theuniondivvie said:One less existential threat to the Israeli state.
https://twitter.com/alexbkane/status/995998390692573184
Israel is disgusting.
Stupid. Dangerous. Negligent.
But anyway we should be holding Israel to much higher standards then Hamas, instead of both sidesism,0 -
Why? Is that not racist?nunuone said:
I think the people are desperate now. It's been an open air prison for years now. I don't think they need Hamas to tell them to do anything, they would be doing it anyway.Gallowgate said:
Hamas has a role to play in this, despite the disproportionate response. Why on earth do they keep telling their people to attack the border, despite knowing Israel will use massive violence to defend it?nunuone said:
He's a human shield you see.Theuniondivvie said:One less existential threat to the Israeli state.
https://twitter.com/alexbkane/status/995998390692573184
Israel is disgusting.
Stupid. Dangerous. Negligent.
But anyway we should be holding Israel to much higher standards then Hamas, instead of both sidesism,0 -
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Our government has apparently called for restraint. Which is admittedly pretty feeble but it is not silence.bigjohnowls said:Peaceful Protesters mowed down Over 1000 in the buffer Zone not even at the border suffer gunshot wounds
The silence from our Government and from the PLP is deafening0 -
A few Israel & Trump supporters among the Ibrox faithful. Perhaps an idea for The Rangers when the next incarnation comes around?
https://twitter.com/ChemiShalev/status/995666297823350785
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What do you mean? Do you know anything about these people? Which ones are Corbynistas?bigjohnowls said:0 -
They could, and should. But, Gaza would still be an awful place.nunuone said:
If they wanted they could have implemented a two state solution by now.Sean_F said:
What is Israel supposed to about Gaza, in general?nunuone said:
I think the people are desperate now. It's been an open air prison for years now. I don't think they need Hamas to tell them to do anything, they would be doing it anyway.Gallowgate said:
Hamas has a role to play in this, despite the disproportionate response. Why on earth do they keep telling their people to attack the border, despite knowing Israel will use massive violence to defend it?nunuone said:
He's a human shield you see.Theuniondivvie said:One less existential threat to the Israeli state.
https://twitter.com/alexbkane/status/995998390692573184
Israel is disgusting.
Stupid. Dangerous. Negligent.
But anyway we should be holding Israel to much higher standards then Hamas, instead of both sidesism,0 -
3 Lewisham Cllrs and 1 from Islingtonbigjohnowls said:0
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What I'm hearing in the term is sneering at largely inarticulate people who feel passionately about something.nunuone said:
Imagine if asian audience members were called "brownies".AndyJS said:"BBC Trending
Why your social media is covered in gammon"
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/blogs-trending-44108080
Good evening, everyone.0 -
Sakina SheikhDavidL said:
What do you mean? Do you know anything about these people? Which ones are Corbynistas?bigjohnowls said:
Claudia Webbe0 -
Momentum meeting Wednesday to agree which one to support CW most snr but if she gives up her NEC Place we are back to parity as Joanna Baxter would replacebigjohnowls said:
Sakina SheikhDavidL said:
What do you mean? Do you know anything about these people? Which ones are Corbynistas?bigjohnowls said:
Claudia Webbe0 -
Grant it independence, along with the rest of Palestine, or give its citizens the vote.Sean_F said:
What is Israel supposed to about Gaza, in general?nunuone said:
I think the people are desperate now. It's been an open air prison for years now. I don't think they need Hamas to tell them to do anything, they would be doing it anyway.Gallowgate said:
Hamas has a role to play in this, despite the disproportionate response. Why on earth do they keep telling their people to attack the border, despite knowing Israel will use massive violence to defend it?nunuone said:
He's a human shield you see.Theuniondivvie said:One less existential threat to the Israeli state.
https://twitter.com/alexbkane/status/995998390692573184
Israel is disgusting.
Stupid. Dangerous. Negligent.
But anyway we should be holding Israel to much higher standards then Hamas, instead of both sidesism,0 -
....and the Israeli slaughter continues. It's a disgrace. The shame for Labour isn't the feeble accusations of antisemitism but the free trips the Labour Friends of Israel enjoy.0
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I love how people are reading any old nonsense into the gammon term. It’s like a Rorschach test.AnneJGP said:
What I'm hearing in the term is sneering at largely inarticulate people who feel passionately about something.nunuone said:
Imagine if asian audience members were called "brownies".AndyJS said:"BBC Trending
Why your social media is covered in gammon"
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/blogs-trending-44108080
Good evening, everyone.0 -
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Because people who deal with dog muck and potholes on a daily basis are best qualified to sit in parliament.AndreaParma_82 said:3 Lewisham Cllrs and 1 from Islington
bigjohnowls said:0 -
Tbf LFI seem to be grateful for those trips.Roger said:....and the Israeli slaughter continues. It's a disgrace. The shame for Labour isn't the feeble accusations of antisemitism but the free trips the Labour Friends of Israel enjoy.
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Astonishingly tone deaf.Theuniondivvie said:
Tbf LFI seem to be grateful for those trips.Roger said:....and the Israeli slaughter continues. It's a disgrace. The shame for Labour isn't the feeble accusations of antisemitism but the free trips the Labour Friends of Israel enjoy.
https://twitter.com/_LFI/status/996050275017416704
Can’t accuse *them* of anti-semitism, though.0 -
Yeah, well, always happens when people come across terms they never heard of before.Gardenwalker said:
I love how people are reading any old nonsense into the gammon term. It’s like a Rorschach test.AnneJGP said:
What I'm hearing in the term is sneering at largely inarticulate people who feel passionately about something.nunuone said:
Imagine if asian audience members were called "brownies".AndyJS said:"BBC Trending
Why your social media is covered in gammon"
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/blogs-trending-44108080
Good evening, everyone.
Like those Batman T-shirts. For ages I wondered why people were going around displaying a yellow teeth motif.
Or when I joined a new company and eventually referred to a program suite no-one had explained to me as "De-mouser". Took us all a little while to understand I was referring to their Demo-user suite.0 -
The real shame is that by indulging their taste for anti-semitism all these years, they have cut themselves off at the knees as effective anti-Zionists. Just think of the stand they could have made over today's fcking appalling events if they weren't the party whose ppc had had to stand down two days ago for snidey twattery about the holocaust. Numpties.Roger said:....and the Israeli slaughter continues. It's a disgrace. The shame for Labour isn't the feeble accusations of antisemitism but the free trips the Labour Friends of Israel enjoy.
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That reads like a parody account.Theuniondivvie said:
Tbf LFI seem to be grateful for those trips.Roger said:....and the Israeli slaughter continues. It's a disgrace. The shame for Labour isn't the feeble accusations of antisemitism but the free trips the Labour Friends of Israel enjoy.
https://twitter.com/_LFI/status/996050275017416704
Best I leave it at that.0 -
Its obviously Hamas' fault people are getting shot. I mean, they are not exactly making it difficult are they, putting up people in wheelchairs and kids?SandyRentool said:
That reads like a parody account.Theuniondivvie said:
Tbf LFI seem to be grateful for those trips.Roger said:....and the Israeli slaughter continues. It's a disgrace. The shame for Labour isn't the feeble accusations of antisemitism but the free trips the Labour Friends of Israel enjoy.
https://twitter.com/_LFI/status/996050275017416704
Best I leave it at that.0 -
I remember a patient telling me they had "That Mrs A" , it took me a while for the penny to drop. MRSA!AnneJGP said:
Yeah, well, always happens when people come across terms they never heard of before.Gardenwalker said:
I love how people are reading any old nonsense into the gammon term. It’s like a Rorschach test.AnneJGP said:
What I'm hearing in the term is sneering at largely inarticulate people who feel passionately about something.nunuone said:
Imagine if asian audience members were called "brownies".AndyJS said:"BBC Trending
Why your social media is covered in gammon"
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/blogs-trending-44108080
Good evening, everyone.
Like those Batman T-shirts. For ages I wondered why people were going around displaying a yellow teeth motif.
Or when I joined a new company and eventually referred to a program suite no-one had explained to me as "De-mouser". Took us all a little while to understand I was referring to their Demo-user suite.0 -
I think that is justified response from the shadow foreign secretary.Ishmael_Z said:0
