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Not completely sure which woman you are abusing this time Malcolm.malcolmg said:
Ha Ha Ha David, from someone in love with a big scaredy windbag, she would not make a three bob bit.DavidL said:
Even worse, a pound shop Alex Salmond.TheScreamingEagles said:Jose Mourinho a pound shop Jeremy Corbyn ?
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/football/2018/mar/06/jose-mourinho-joins-rt-as-world-cup-pundit0 -
Evening Gin, what is it with Tories wetting their nappies multiple times a day.GIN1138 said:
Evening Malc!malcolmg said:
Tories are not the full shilling.Danny565 said:
Who precisely do you think would be better, and why, apart from Davidson (and perhaps Boris, who to be fair is a complete wildcard who could go either way).Philip_Thompson said:
I don't see anyone who could be worse. At the very least the next leader will bother to turn up to the TV debates.Danny565 said:But May is apparently going to be ditched before the next election, in favour of someone who is either no better than her, or quite possibly even worse (unless they can get Ruth Davidson eligible somehow).
Also, I'm not entirely sure May skipping the debates was as much of a mistake as people say. Yes, it made her look chicken, but that's arguably better than her actually taking part in the debates, having a car-crash, and providing all sorts of "viral" clips that would've damaged her.
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Vince is lame at campaigning. What has he done in the last year?Jonathan said:
You don't need a minister, you need a campaigner.Foxy said:
Yes, the membership is larger, but also even more pro-EU as a result of the last few years.stodge said:
If it were my choice, it would be Tom Brake but he and Ed Davey know we can't go back to the pre-Coalition days. Moran represents what the Party is not what it was.Jonathan said:
Both very weak, in a weak field. Ed Davey?stodge said:
Everyone knows Vince is there for the short term. The question is whether Jo Swinson will also get a coronation or whether she will be challenged by Layla Moran.Foxy said:
I have never liked him, but he is too languid, and is the primary architect of the Tuition fee mess. He cannot walk away from it.
I would have voted anyone but Vince if it hadn't been a coronation.
That Liberal Democrat Party, the one I joined as a Liberal, died in the fire of the Coalition, There is a new party out there - 3/4 of the current membership joined post-2015 - and it needs a leader less encumbered by the ghosts of the Rose Garden.
I quite like Swinson, but she does seem to be most interested in gender politics, rather than bread and butter social or economic issues likely to get support out at elections.
Tom Brake is possible, and Moran increasingly impressive, but I am a Lambite at heart. He was a very capable minister.
If recent politics is Alice in Wonderland, with Corbyn as Mad Hatter, and May as the Red Queen, Vince is the Dormouse!
Lamb has made excellent use of his backbench status to campaign on mental health issues, and has a lot of ground level campaigning experience in Local elections.
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Propaganda David, I am munching M&S bread with lashings of milk in my tea. You Tories just cannot help yourselves with the porkies. Tell your manservant he is going to the wrong shops.DavidL said:
And Scots are without milk and bread. Nicola Sturgeon told the lorry drivers to get off the road because it was snowing. Our supply chain has still not recovered and thousands of self employed drivers are suffering serious hardship. Still, it got a good headline in the National.tlg86 said:I see many Londoners are still without water.
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Something to do with "Nanny" perhaps?malcolmg said:
Evening Gin, what is it with Tories wetting their nappies multiple times a day.GIN1138 said:
Evening Malc!malcolmg said:
Tories are not the full shilling.Danny565 said:
Who precisely do you think would be better, and why, apart from Davidson (and perhaps Boris, who to be fair is a complete wildcard who could go either way).Philip_Thompson said:
I don't see anyone who could be worse. At the very least the next leader will bother to turn up to the TV debates.Danny565 said:But May is apparently going to be ditched before the next election, in favour of someone who is either no better than her, or quite possibly even worse (unless they can get Ruth Davidson eligible somehow).
Also, I'm not entirely sure May skipping the debates was as much of a mistake as people say. Yes, it made her look chicken, but that's arguably better than her actually taking part in the debates, having a car-crash, and providing all sorts of "viral" clips that would've damaged her.
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Indeed and Lamb held on at GE17 in a seat that at the referendum was 58% leave.Foxy said:
Vince is lame at campaigning. What has he done in the last year?Jonathan said:
You don't need a minister, you need a campaigner.Foxy said:
Yes, the membership is larger, but also even more pro-EU as a result of the last few years.stodge said:
If it were my choice, it would be Tom Brake but he and Ed Davey know we can't go back to the pre-Coalition days. Moran represents what the Party is not what it was.Jonathan said:
Both very weak, in a weak field. Ed Davey?stodge said:
Everyone knows Vince is there for the short term. The question is whether Jo Swinson will also get a coronation or whether she will be challenged by Layla Moran.Foxy said:
I have never liked him, but he is too languid, and is the primary architect of the Tuition fee mess. He cannot walk away from it.
I would have voted anyone but Vince if it hadn't been a coronation.
That Liberal Democrat Party, the one I joined as a Liberal, died in the fire of the Coalition, There is a new party out there - 3/4 of the current membership joined post-2015 - and it needs a leader less encumbered by the ghosts of the Rose Garden.
I quite like Swinson, but she does seem to be most interested in gender politics, rather than bread and butter social or economic issues likely to get support out at elections.
Tom Brake is possible, and Moran increasingly impressive, but I am a Lambite at heart. He was a very capable minister.
If recent politics is Alice in Wonderland, with Corbyn as Mad Hatter, and May as the Red Queen, Vince is the Dormouse!
Lamb has made excellent use of his backbench status to campaign on mental health issues, and has a lot of ground level campaigning experience in Local elections.0 -
Vince was shit as a minister too. He great at doing media analysis, on one hand this on another hand that, but only thing of note he did in government was the botched post office sell off.Foxy said:
Vince is lame at campaigning. What has he done in the last year?Jonathan said:
You don't need a minister, you need a campaigner.Foxy said:
Yes, the membership is larger, but also even more pro-EU as a result of the last few years.stodge said:
If it were my choice, it would be Tom Brake but he and Ed Davey know we can't go back to the pre-Coalition days. Moran represents what the Party is not what it was.Jonathan said:
Both very weak, in a weak field. Ed Davey?stodge said:
Everyone knows Vince is there for the short term. The question is whether Jo Swinson will also get a coronation or whether she will be challenged by Layla Moran.Foxy said:
I have never liked him, but he is too languid, and is the primary architect of the Tuition fee mess. He cannot walk away from it.
I would have voted anyone but Vince if it hadn't been a coronation.
That Liberal Democrat Party, the one I joined as a Liberal, died in the fire of the Coalition, There is a new party out there - 3/4 of the current membership joined post-2015 - and it needs a leader less encumbered by the ghosts of the Rose Garden.
I quite like Swinson, but she does seem to be most interested in gender politics, rather than bread and butter social or economic issues likely to get support out at elections.
Tom Brake is possible, and Moran increasingly impressive, but I am a Lambite at heart. He was a very capable minister.
If recent politics is Alice in Wonderland, with Corbyn as Mad Hatter, and May as the Red Queen, Vince is the Dormouse!
Lamb has made excellent use of his backbench status to campaign on mental health issues, and has a lot of ground level campaigning experience in Local elections.
Lamb, Alexander and Webb in comparison were very good in their roles.0 -
In the past year Cable won his seat back. That's not bad.Foxy said:
Vince is lame at campaigning. What has he done in the last year?Jonathan said:
You don't need a minister, you need a campaigner.Foxy said:
Yes, the membership is larger, but also even more pro-EU as a result of the last few years.stodge said:
If it were my choice, it would be Tom Brake but he and Ed Davey know we can't go back to the pre-Coalition days. Moran represents what the Party is not what it was.Jonathan said:
Both very weak, in a weak field. Ed Davey?stodge said:
Everyone knows Vince is there for the short term. The question is whether Jo Swinson will also get a coronation or whether she will be challenged by Layla Moran.Foxy said:
I have never liked him, but he is too languid, and is the primary architect of the Tuition fee mess. He cannot walk away from it.
I would have voted anyone but Vince if it hadn't been a coronation.
That Liberal Democrat Party, the one I joined as a Liberal, died in the fire of the Coalition, There is a new party out there - 3/4 of the current membership joined post-2015 - and it needs a leader less encumbered by the ghosts of the Rose Garden.
I quite like Swinson, but she does seem to be most interested in gender politics, rather than bread and butter social or economic issues likely to get support out at elections.
Tom Brake is possible, and Moran increasingly impressive, but I am a Lambite at heart. He was a very capable minister.
If recent politics is Alice in Wonderland, with Corbyn as Mad Hatter, and May as the Red Queen, Vince is the Dormouse!
Lamb has made excellent use of his backbench status to campaign on mental health issues, and has a lot of ground level campaigning experience in Local elections.
He is one of the two people with any reach beyond your party .0 -
Don’t have a manservant Malcolm but Tesco’s and Asda were both out of milk and bread in Dundee today. Asda was rationing for a while but still ran out.malcolmg said:
Propaganda David, I am munching M&S bread with lashings of milk in my tea. You Tories just cannot help yourselves with the porkies. Tell your manservant he is going to the wrong shops.DavidL said:
And Scots are without milk and bread. Nicola Sturgeon told the lorry drivers to get off the road because it was snowing. Our supply chain has still not recovered and thousands of self employed drivers are suffering serious hardship. Still, it got a good headline in the National.tlg86 said:I see many Londoners are still without water.
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Crickey it’s worse an I thought....time for a call to the anti-extremist hotline...TheScreamingEagles said:
It is said my music collection contains more evil than an ISIS suggestion box.FrancisUrquhart said:
I am more worried about your terrible taste in music...we need to get you to sign up to a code of conduct promising not to go to see bands like Steps so they don’t continue to tour...TheScreamingEagles said:
Gerard Batten's the interim leader.AlastairMeeks said:Who is the current leader of UKIP? Is there one?
He's the chap that wants me to sign a code of conduct saying I won't blow myself up and things like that.0 -
Ruthie David, as if as a Gentlemen I would be abusing anyone close to you. I should have perhaps said your second love , Buffalo Rider.DavidL said:
Not completely sure which woman you are abusing this time Malcolm.malcolmg said:
Ha Ha Ha David, from someone in love with a big scaredy windbag, she would not make a three bob bit.DavidL said:
Even worse, a pound shop Alex Salmond.TheScreamingEagles said:Jose Mourinho a pound shop Jeremy Corbyn ?
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/football/2018/mar/06/jose-mourinho-joins-rt-as-world-cup-pundit0 -
People are mental but hardly Sturgeon's fault. I got plenty in M&S on Sunday , nice San Francisco sourgdough and rye, plus Sainsbury's had lots of milk yesterday. You should move to a classier part of the country, we have lots of cows here.DavidL said:
Don’t have a manservant Malcolm but Tesco’s and Asda were both out of milk and bread in Dundee today. Asda was rationing for a while but still ran out.malcolmg said:
Propaganda David, I am munching M&S bread with lashings of milk in my tea. You Tories just cannot help yourselves with the porkies. Tell your manservant he is going to the wrong shops.DavidL said:
And Scots are without milk and bread. Nicola Sturgeon told the lorry drivers to get off the road because it was snowing. Our supply chain has still not recovered and thousands of self employed drivers are suffering serious hardship. Still, it got a good headline in the National.tlg86 said:I see many Londoners are still without water.
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You will be correct GIN, it is down to goats.GIN1138 said:
Something to do with "Nanny" perhaps?malcolmg said:
Evening Gin, what is it with Tories wetting their nappies multiple times a day.GIN1138 said:
Evening Malc!malcolmg said:
Tories are not the full shilling.Danny565 said:
Who precisely do you think would be better, and why, apart from Davidson (and perhaps Boris, who to be fair is a complete wildcard who could go either way).Philip_Thompson said:
I don't see anyone who could be worse. At the very least the next leader will bother to turn up to the TV debates.Danny565 said:But May is apparently going to be ditched before the next election, in favour of someone who is either no better than her, or quite possibly even worse (unless they can get Ruth Davidson eligible somehow).
Also, I'm not entirely sure May skipping the debates was as much of a mistake as people say. Yes, it made her look chicken, but that's arguably better than her actually taking part in the debates, having a car-crash, and providing all sorts of "viral" clips that would've damaged her.0 -
Who is Buffalo Rider? Sounds a bit exotic for the likes of me Malcolm.malcolmg said:
Ruthie David, as if as a Gentlemen I would be abusing anyone close to you. I should have perhaps said your second love , Buffalo Rider.DavidL said:
Not completely sure which woman you are abusing this time Malcolm.malcolmg said:
Ha Ha Ha David, from someone in love with a big scaredy windbag, she would not make a three bob bit.DavidL said:
Even worse, a pound shop Alex Salmond.TheScreamingEagles said:Jose Mourinho a pound shop Jeremy Corbyn ?
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/football/2018/mar/06/jose-mourinho-joins-rt-as-world-cup-pundit
And Ruth had a career with the BBC before she went into politics. Probably had a bigger audience than Alex is managing. Have you watched it?0 -
You mean you did not see the state of her riding a buffalo for publicity.DavidL said:
Who is Buffalo Rider? Sounds a bit exotic for the likes of me Malcolm.malcolmg said:
Ruthie David, as if as a Gentlemen I would be abusing anyone close to you. I should have perhaps said your second love , Buffalo Rider.DavidL said:
Not completely sure which woman you are abusing this time Malcolm.malcolmg said:
Ha Ha Ha David, from someone in love with a big scaredy windbag, she would not make a three bob bit.DavidL said:
Even worse, a pound shop Alex Salmond.TheScreamingEagles said:Jose Mourinho a pound shop Jeremy Corbyn ?
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/football/2018/mar/06/jose-mourinho-joins-rt-as-world-cup-pundit
And Ruth had a career with the BBC before she went into politics. Probably had a bigger audience than Alex is managing. Have you watched it?0 -
Perhaps, then, the rest of his party should listen to him on respecting the voters:MikeSmithson said:
Indeed and Lamb held on at GE17 in a seat that at the referendum was 58% leave.Foxy said:
Vince is lame at campaigning. What has he done in the last year?Jonathan said:
You don't need a minister, you need a campaigner.Foxy said:
Yes, the membership is larger, but also even more pro-EU as a result of the last few years.stodge said:
If it were my choice, it would be Tom Brake but he and Ed Davey know we can't go back to the pre-Coalition days. Moran represents what the Party is not what it was.Jonathan said:
Both very weak, in a weak field. Ed Davey?stodge said:
Everyone knows Vince is there for the short term. The question is whether Jo Swinson will also get a coronation or whether she will be challenged by Layla Moran.Foxy said:
I have never liked him, but he is too languid, and is the primary architect of the Tuition fee mess. He cannot walk away from it.
I would have voted anyone but Vince if it hadn't been a coronation.
That Liberal Democrat Party, the one I joined as a Liberal, died in the fire of the Coalition, There is a new party out there - 3/4 of the current membership joined post-2015 - and it needs a leader less encumbered by the ghosts of the Rose Garden.
I quite like Swinson, but she does seem to be most interested in gender politics, rather than bread and butter social or economic issues likely to get support out at elections.
Tom Brake is possible, and Moran increasingly impressive, but I am a Lambite at heart. He was a very capable minister.
If recent politics is Alice in Wonderland, with Corbyn as Mad Hatter, and May as the Red Queen, Vince is the Dormouse!
Lamb has made excellent use of his backbench status to campaign on mental health issues, and has a lot of ground level campaigning experience in Local elections.
http://www.itv.com/news/anglia/update/2017-09-16/mp-warns-lib-dems-to-stop-treating-brexit-voters-like-idiots/0 -
No, I remember a tank. Not a buffalo. I am happy to take your word for it though. Who’d be a politician?malcolmg said:
You mean you did not see the state of her riding a buffalo for publicity.DavidL said:
Who is Buffalo Rider? Sounds a bit exotic for the likes of me Malcolm.malcolmg said:
Ruthie David, as if as a Gentlemen I would be abusing anyone close to you. I should have perhaps said your second love , Buffalo Rider.DavidL said:
Not completely sure which woman you are abusing this time Malcolm.malcolmg said:
Ha Ha Ha David, from someone in love with a big scaredy windbag, she would not make a three bob bit.DavidL said:
Even worse, a pound shop Alex Salmond.TheScreamingEagles said:Jose Mourinho a pound shop Jeremy Corbyn ?
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/football/2018/mar/06/jose-mourinho-joins-rt-as-world-cup-pundit
And Ruth had a career with the BBC before she went into politics. Probably had a bigger audience than Alex is managing. Have you watched it?0 -
What's Woking? Is it a shoe shop?tlg86 said:
Fair point. It is around 1,000 homes and businesses:stodge said:
I see you're talking fatuous nonsense. "Many" Londoners - a hundred thousand, half a million or nearer one thousand or even 500 ?tlg86 said:I see many Londoners are still without water.
No problems here with water and I don't know of anyone who has issues. Yes, there is a burst pipe in East Ham High Street but the good folk of Newham are coping well.
We rely on provincial England to make a crisis out of a drama.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-43298773
To be fair, it was the headline on BBC London News tonight so I guessed it was a significant number of people.
The whole of Woking could be without water and BBC London wouldn't even know about it.
(Bonus point for whoever gets the reference.)0 -
Boom boom.DavidL said:
O’Leary goes into a bar in Dublin and asks for a pint of Guinness. “That will be 2.50 Euros”, said the barman.rcs1000 said:
Michael O'Leary has always been a cock.Richard_Tyndall said:
What an idiot. ALl that will do is persuade voters to rethink about ever using Ryanair again.williamglenn said:
“Wow” said O’Leary. “That has to be the best price in Dublin.”
“Yes”, said the barman, “Would you be wanting a glass with that?”0 -
Have to say the Paris stadium looks fantastic.0
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I'll guess Hitchhiker's Guide.rcs1000 said:
What's Woking? Is it a shoe shop?tlg86 said:
Fair point. It is around 1,000 homes and businesses:stodge said:
I see you're talking fatuous nonsense. "Many" Londoners - a hundred thousand, half a million or nearer one thousand or even 500 ?tlg86 said:I see many Londoners are still without water.
No problems here with water and I don't know of anyone who has issues. Yes, there is a burst pipe in East Ham High Street but the good folk of Newham are coping well.
We rely on provincial England to make a crisis out of a drama.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-43298773
To be fair, it was the headline on BBC London News tonight so I guessed it was a significant number of people.
The whole of Woking could be without water and BBC London wouldn't even know about it.
(Bonus point for whoever gets the reference.)0 -
I'm afraid not.tlg86 said:
I'll guess Hitchhiker's Guide.rcs1000 said:
What's Woking? Is it a shoe shop?tlg86 said:
Fair point. It is around 1,000 homes and businesses:stodge said:
I see you're talking fatuous nonsense. "Many" Londoners - a hundred thousand, half a million or nearer one thousand or even 500 ?tlg86 said:I see many Londoners are still without water.
No problems here with water and I don't know of anyone who has issues. Yes, there is a burst pipe in East Ham High Street but the good folk of Newham are coping well.
We rely on provincial England to make a crisis out of a drama.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-43298773
To be fair, it was the headline on BBC London News tonight so I guessed it was a significant number of people.
The whole of Woking could be without water and BBC London wouldn't even know about it.
(Bonus point for whoever gets the reference.)0 -
A fight they are going to lose. A new leader could perhaps enthuse these new members on other stuff just when they are otherwise going to get cold feet and walk away. "If they can't stop Brexit, what's the point of the LibDems?"Foxy said:
Not really, as policy is decided democratically by members, and many of the new members joined specifically to fight Brexit.MarqueeMark said:
Er, wouldn't that have been a policy a new leader could have changed???Foxy said:
As indeed I did!Morris_Dancer said:Dr. Foxy, they should've gone for Lamb, [as I advocated].
Lamb chose not to stand as he wasn't happy with current party position on Brexit. He wanted to abide by the result with a soft Brexit.0 -
EU proposed lines-to-take on Theresa May's speech and the future relationship:
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/mar/06/theresa-may-conservative-politics-brexit-solutions-leaked-eu-report
Page 4 is a good laugh. They seem to be claiming, apparently with a straight face, that there will have to be inspections at the Irish border to search for gear gum and okra from India, and plastic kitchenware from China and Hong Kong.-1 -
Well, I never thought I'd be called a Torymalcolmg said:
Davidson is worse than May, you Tories are not the full shilling.Danny565 said:
Who precisely do you think would be better, and why, apart from Davidson (and perhaps Boris, who to be fair is a complete wildcard who could go either way).Philip_Thompson said:
I don't see anyone who could be worse. At the very least the next leader will bother to turn up to the TV debates.Danny565 said:But May is apparently going to be ditched before the next election, in favour of someone who is either no better than her, or quite possibly even worse (unless they can get Ruth Davidson eligible somehow).
Also, I'm not entirely sure May skipping the debates was as much of a mistake as people say. Yes, it made her look chicken, but that's arguably better than her actually taking part in the debates, having a car-crash, and providing all sorts of "viral" clips that would've damaged her. 0 -
Sounds a bit Oscar Wilde to me.tlg86 said:
I'll guess Hitchhiker's Guide.rcs1000 said:
What's Woking? Is it a shoe shop?tlg86 said:
Fair point. It is around 1,000 homes and businesses:stodge said:
I see you're talking fatuous nonsense. "Many" Londoners - a hundred thousand, half a million or nearer one thousand or even 500 ?tlg86 said:I see many Londoners are still without water.
No problems here with water and I don't know of anyone who has issues. Yes, there is a burst pipe in East Ham High Street but the good folk of Newham are coping well.
We rely on provincial England to make a crisis out of a drama.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-43298773
To be fair, it was the headline on BBC London News tonight so I guessed it was a significant number of people.
The whole of Woking could be without water and BBC London wouldn't even know about it.
(Bonus point for whoever gets the reference.)0 -
I was once, and a mere 6 years later I did indeed vote Tory for the first time. Only a matter of time for you now.Danny565 said:
Well, I never thought I'd be called a Torymalcolmg said:
Davidson is worse than May, you Tories are not the full shilling.Danny565 said:
Who precisely do you think would be better, and why, apart from Davidson (and perhaps Boris, who to be fair is a complete wildcard who could go either way).Philip_Thompson said:
I don't see anyone who could be worse. At the very least the next leader will bother to turn up to the TV debates.Danny565 said:But May is apparently going to be ditched before the next election, in favour of someone who is either no better than her, or quite possibly even worse (unless they can get Ruth Davidson eligible somehow).
Also, I'm not entirely sure May skipping the debates was as much of a mistake as people say. Yes, it made her look chicken, but that's arguably better than her actually taking part in the debates, having a car-crash, and providing all sorts of "viral" clips that would've damaged her.0 -
At least it seems their objection now is only to "double cherry-picking". Cherry picking is now an option?Richard_Nabavi said:EU proposed lines-to-take on Theresa May's speech and the future relationship:
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/mar/06/theresa-may-conservative-politics-brexit-solutions-leaked-eu-report
Page 4 is a good laugh. They seem to be claiming, apparently with a straight face, that there will have to be inspections at the Irish border to search for gear gum and okra from India, and plastic kitchenware from China and Hong Kong.0 -
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LibDems need to decide whether there is more mileage fishing for soft Tories or Blairites. I reckon that they migh do well positioned as the true heirs to Cameron, Clegg and the Coalition. Lamb might be good for that. Labour voters will be hard to reach for a generation.0
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Missed a trick there. Surely should have been chlorinated chicken. Do these people not read PB?Richard_Nabavi said:EU proposed lines-to-take on Theresa May's speech and the future relationship:
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/mar/06/theresa-may-conservative-politics-brexit-solutions-leaked-eu-report
Page 4 is a good laugh. They seem to be claiming, apparently with a straight face, that there will have to be inspections at the Irish border to search for gear gum and okra from India, and plastic kitchenware from China and Hong Kong.0 -
A moment of madness.kle4 said:
I was once, and a mere 6 years later I did indeed vote Tory for the first time. Only a matter of time for you now.Danny565 said:
Well, I never thought I'd be called a Torymalcolmg said:
Davidson is worse than May, you Tories are not the full shilling.Danny565 said:
Who precisely do you think would be better, and why, apart from Davidson (and perhaps Boris, who to be fair is a complete wildcard who could go either way).Philip_Thompson said:
I don't see anyone who could be worse. At the very least the next leader will bother to turn up to the TV debates.Danny565 said:But May is apparently going to be ditched before the next election, in favour of someone who is either no better than her, or quite possibly even worse (unless they can get Ruth Davidson eligible somehow).
Also, I'm not entirely sure May skipping the debates was as much of a mistake as people say. Yes, it made her look chicken, but that's arguably better than her actually taking part in the debates, having a car-crash, and providing all sorts of "viral" clips that would've damaged her.0 -
Nice background music.
https://twitter.com/martyn_williams/status/9710225448777031680 -
That's quite obscure!rcs1000 said:0 -
Fukushima ffsake lolRichard_Nabavi said:EU proposed lines-to-take on Theresa May's speech and the future relationship:
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/mar/06/theresa-may-conservative-politics-brexit-solutions-leaked-eu-report
Page 4 is a good laugh. They seem to be claiming, apparently with a straight face, that there will have to be inspections at the Irish border to search for gear gum and okra from India, and plastic kitchenware from China and Hong Kong.0 -
I though Blairites were soft Tories?Jonathan said:LibDems need to decide whether there is more mileage fishing for soft Tories or Blairites. I reckon that they migh do well positioned as the true heirs to Cameron, Clegg and the Coalition. Lamb might be good for that. Labour voters will be hard to reach for a generation.
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https://twitter.com/konotaromp/status/941267067306631169Pulpstar said:
Fukushima ffsake lolRichard_Nabavi said:EU proposed lines-to-take on Theresa May's speech and the future relationship:
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/mar/06/theresa-may-conservative-politics-brexit-solutions-leaked-eu-report
Page 4 is a good laugh. They seem to be claiming, apparently with a straight face, that there will have to be inspections at the Irish border to search for gear gum and okra from India, and plastic kitchenware from China and Hong Kong.0 -
The real golden market for the Lib Dems has always been rural, poorer voters: people who think the Tories are a bit too rich for "people like me", but that Labour are too metropolitan and don't understand the countryside. Paddy Ashdown vacuumed those sorts of people up, in particular.Jonathan said:LibDems need to decide whether there is more mileage fishing for soft Tories or Blairites. I reckon that they migh do well positioned as the true heirs to Cameron, Clegg and the Coalition. Lamb might be good for that. Labour voters will be hard to reach for a generation.
The problem is that those sorts of voters seemed to largely vote for Brexit.0 -
Only if you view the world from way over on the distant left. Blairites used to enjoy dining on Tories for breakfast. Ah, the good old days.rcs1000 said:
I though Blairites were soft Tories?Jonathan said:LibDems need to decide whether there is more mileage fishing for soft Tories or Blairites. I reckon that they migh do well positioned as the true heirs to Cameron, Clegg and the Coalition. Lamb might be good for that. Labour voters will be hard to reach for a generation.
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Time will tell. All sinners can be redeemed after all.Jonathan said:
A moment of madness.kle4 said:
I was once, and a mere 6 years later I did indeed vote Tory for the first time. Only a matter of time for you now.Danny565 said:
Well, I never thought I'd be called a Torymalcolmg said:
Davidson is worse than May, you Tories are not the full shilling.Danny565 said:
Who precisely do you think would be better, and why, apart from Davidson (and perhaps Boris, who to be fair is a complete wildcard who could go either way).Philip_Thompson said:
I don't see anyone who could be worse. At the very least the next leader will bother to turn up to the TV debates.Danny565 said:But May is apparently going to be ditched before the next election, in favour of someone who is either no better than her, or quite possibly even worse (unless they can get Ruth Davidson eligible somehow).
Also, I'm not entirely sure May skipping the debates was as much of a mistake as people say. Yes, it made her look chicken, but that's arguably better than her actually taking part in the debates, having a car-crash, and providing all sorts of "viral" clips that would've damaged her.0 -
Not sure that completely explains his recent behaviour.williamglenn said:
https://twitter.com/konotaromp/status/941267067306631169Pulpstar said:
Fukushima ffsake lolRichard_Nabavi said:EU proposed lines-to-take on Theresa May's speech and the future relationship:
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/mar/06/theresa-may-conservative-politics-brexit-solutions-leaked-eu-report
Page 4 is a good laugh. They seem to be claiming, apparently with a straight face, that there will have to be inspections at the Irish border to search for gear gum and okra from India, and plastic kitchenware from China and Hong Kong.0 -
Maybe he scoffed a few of those "BSE-free" burgers off John Gummer too?DavidL said:
Not sure that completely explains his recent behaviour.williamglenn said:
https://twitter.com/konotaromp/status/941267067306631169Pulpstar said:
Fukushima ffsake lolRichard_Nabavi said:EU proposed lines-to-take on Theresa May's speech and the future relationship:
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/mar/06/theresa-may-conservative-politics-brexit-solutions-leaked-eu-report
Page 4 is a good laugh. They seem to be claiming, apparently with a straight face, that there will have to be inspections at the Irish border to search for gear gum and okra from India, and plastic kitchenware from China and Hong Kong.0 -
One of several reasons that Lamb would have been effective.Danny565 said:
The real golden market for the Lib Dems has always been rural, poorer voters: people who think the Tories are a bit too rich for "people like me", but that Labour are too metropolitan and don't understand the countryside. Paddy Ashdown vacuumed those sorts of people up, in particular.Jonathan said:LibDems need to decide whether there is more mileage fishing for soft Tories or Blairites. I reckon that they migh do well positioned as the true heirs to Cameron, Clegg and the Coalition. Lamb might be good for that. Labour voters will be hard to reach for a generation.
The problem is that those sorts of voters seemed to largely vote for Brexit.
I expect that he would have lost in a contest, but he would have had my vote and it would have been a useful debate within the party.0 -
Lib Dems have more potential in metropolitan Liberal seats.Danny565 said:
The real golden market for the Lib Dems has always been rural, poorer voters: people who think the Tories are a bit too rich for "people like me", but that Labour are too metropolitan and don't understand the countryside. Paddy Ashdown vacuumed those sorts of people up, in particular.Jonathan said:LibDems need to decide whether there is more mileage fishing for soft Tories or Blairites. I reckon that they migh do well positioned as the true heirs to Cameron, Clegg and the Coalition. Lamb might be good for that. Labour voters will be hard to reach for a generation.
The problem is that those sorts of voters seemed to largely vote for Brexit.0 -
For any lawyers/legal experts on the site, I see in American politics a lot on the American right are making a big deal about Christopher Steele not turning up to court in London for a deposition.
To my knowledge depositions aren't a thing in this country, although it might just be a different word, and I can't see any British media reporting anything about this. Is it fake news or something else?0 -
If I were Kim Jong-un I'd be saying to the southerners "with my nukes and your hi-tech industry we could CONQUER <clarkson pause> THE WORLD!"williamglenn said:Nice background music.
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I think US courts can order depositions overseas in appropriate cases.Philip_Thompson said:For any lawyers/legal experts on the site, I see in American politics a lot on the American right are making a big deal about Christopher Steele not turning up to court in London for a deposition.
To my knowledge depositions aren't a thing in this country, although it might just be a different word, and I can't see any British media reporting anything about this. Is it fake news or something else?0 -
Letters rogatory?Philip_Thompson said:For any lawyers/legal experts on the site, I see in American politics a lot on the American right are making a big deal about Christopher Steele not turning up to court in London for a deposition.
To my knowledge depositions aren't a thing in this country, although it might just be a different word, and I can't see any British media reporting anything about this. Is it fake news or something else?0 -
The really concerning thing about Corbyn is not that he's who he is and has his own incomprehensible view as to how the world functions or not, but that people don't mind nonsense from their politicians.
For what it's worth Corbyn has himself reigned in the dafter policies. Whether that's because he realises his dafter policies are daft, or whether he wishes to camouflage those daft policies who can tell. Perhaps a bit of both.
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Cheers? Any idea if that's happened in this case?Ishmael_Z said:
I think US courts can order depositions overseas in appropriate cases.Philip_Thompson said:For any lawyers/legal experts on the site, I see in American politics a lot on the American right are making a big deal about Christopher Steele not turning up to court in London for a deposition.
To my knowledge depositions aren't a thing in this country, although it might just be a different word, and I can't see any British media reporting anything about this. Is it fake news or something else?0 -
Very true.Recidivist said:
A shared dislike of Ryanair might be just the ticket to start reuniting leavers and remainers.Richard_Tyndall said:
What an idiot. ALl that will do is persuade voters to rethink about ever using Ryanair again.williamglenn said:0 -
"....and on that - nuclear - bombshell...."rpjs said:
If I were Kim Jong-un I'd be saying to the southerners "with my nukes and your hi-tech industry we could CONQUER <clarkson pause> THE WORLD!"williamglenn said:Nice background music.
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I was once deposed in London for a case in Boston. I was under no legal obligation to turn up and be deposed for a whole day, but did do anyway.Philip_Thompson said:For any lawyers/legal experts on the site, I see in American politics a lot on the American right are making a big deal about Christopher Steele not turning up to court in London for a deposition.
To my knowledge depositions aren't a thing in this country, although it might just be a different word, and I can't see any British media reporting anything about this. Is it fake news or something else?0 -
Is there even a UKIP any more?AlastairMeeks said:Who is the current leader of UKIP? Is there one?
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That sounds like an exceedingly expensive form of S&M....rcs1000 said:
I was once deposed in London for a case in Boston. I was under no legal obligation to turn up and be deposed for a whole day, but did do anyway.Philip_Thompson said:For any lawyers/legal experts on the site, I see in American politics a lot on the American right are making a big deal about Christopher Steele not turning up to court in London for a deposition.
To my knowledge depositions aren't a thing in this country, although it might just be a different word, and I can't see any British media reporting anything about this. Is it fake news or something else?0 -
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Thanks.rcs1000 said:
I was once deposed in London for a case in Boston. I was under no legal obligation to turn up and be deposed for a whole day, but did do anyway.Philip_Thompson said:For any lawyers/legal experts on the site, I see in American politics a lot on the American right are making a big deal about Christopher Steele not turning up to court in London for a deposition.
To my knowledge depositions aren't a thing in this country, although it might just be a different word, and I can't see any British media reporting anything about this. Is it fake news or something else?0 -
Convenient leak.Scott_P said:twitter.com/danielboffey/status/971127167299055619
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Perhaps they are right, but given the EU has continually failed to understand us as they claim we do not understand them, I am skeptical that they have any particular insight into our politics.Scott_P said:0 -
Very disappointed that you were not one of the Goldman Four!rcs1000 said:
I was once deposed in London for a case in Boston. I was under no legal obligation to turn up and be deposed for a whole day, but did do anyway.Philip_Thompson said:For any lawyers/legal experts on the site, I see in American politics a lot on the American right are making a big deal about Christopher Steele not turning up to court in London for a deposition.
To my knowledge depositions aren't a thing in this country, although it might just be a different word, and I can't see any British media reporting anything about this. Is it fake news or something else?
I guess that article is loaded against Goldman, but they do come across as complete shits.0 -
Isn't it American for "statement"?Philip_Thompson said:For any lawyers/legal experts on the site, I see in American politics a lot on the American right are making a big deal about Christopher Steele not turning up to court in London for a deposition.
To my knowledge depositions aren't a thing in this country, although it might just be a different word, and I can't see any British media reporting anything about this. Is it fake news or something else?0 -
No idea really. It sounds from this as if an application is being made for an order from the English courts (which would make compliance non-voluntary) but it isn't clear:Philip_Thompson said:
Cheers? Any idea if that's happened in this case?Ishmael_Z said:
I think US courts can order depositions overseas in appropriate cases.Philip_Thompson said:For any lawyers/legal experts on the site, I see in American politics a lot on the American right are making a big deal about Christopher Steele not turning up to court in London for a deposition.
To my knowledge depositions aren't a thing in this country, although it might just be a different word, and I can't see any British media reporting anything about this. Is it fake news or something else?
http://dailycaller.com/2018/02/05/christopher-steele-dossier-lawsuit/0 -
White House News Conference with Trump and Swedish PM just now
One correspondent asks 'To what do you owe North Korea's open ness to talk' - ME
And he says that steel tariffs are to be applied but he is in talks with Canada and Mexico and hopes that a deal will be struck to exempt them, but not China or the EU.
He also went on to say the US has an 800 billion trade deficit and if the EU want to apply reciprocal tariffs he will apply a 45% tariff to all their cars coming into the US.
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No, because the person making the deposition can be cross-examined by the other side; in England you can only do that at trial, not in advance of it. I think.NickPalmer said:
Isn't it American for "statement"?Philip_Thompson said:For any lawyers/legal experts on the site, I see in American politics a lot on the American right are making a big deal about Christopher Steele not turning up to court in London for a deposition.
To my knowledge depositions aren't a thing in this country, although it might just be a different word, and I can't see any British media reporting anything about this. Is it fake news or something else?0 -
Scott_P said:
How would they know?
And more importantly why does the UK media take every single pronouncement from the EU has though it was being handed down to Moses on tablets of stone?0 -
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The EU, Guardian, BBC and the elite both here and in Europe are putting leaving the EU under sustained attack but they are not changing minds.GIN1138 said:Scott_P said:
How would they know?
And more importantly why does the UK media take every single pronouncement from the EU has though it was being handed down to Moses on tablets of stone?
In the end TM cannot, nor will she, agree any payment to the EU that is not a fair deal or more specifically is sedn as fair by the average voter outside the London political and media bubble0 -
Tomorrow we get the EU guidelines on negotiating a trade deal with the UK.
Great moment for the German car manufacturers to step in as promised and pave the way for a bespoke Canada +++ deal. Frictionless trade and freedom from Brussels external tariffs.
"The easiest trade deal in history".
Can't wait....0 -
Tonights direct threat by Trump to the EU of 45% tariffs on EU car imports are far more of a problem for them. He said that their trade deficit is so bad they can see out a trade war with the EUFreggles said:Tomorrow we get the EU guidelines on negotiating a trade deal with the UK.
Great moment for the German car manufacturers to step in as promised and pave the way for a bespoke Canada +++ deal. Frictionless trade and freedom from Brussels external tariffs.
"The easiest trade deal in history".
Can't wait....0 -
They don’t live longer - it just seems that wayrcs1000 said:
Apparently, even abstemious people age.AlastairMeeks said:Anyone working on assumptions that Donald Trump may deteriorate in his late 70s should note that by many reports he doesn't drink or smoke (or drink tea or coffee). He seems far too self-absorbed to appreciate that the job of president might have some stresses.
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The thing is, as the USA you probably can afford a trade war and it might well help you domestically by rallying the patriotic behind you. But why do China and the EU at the same time? You only need one enemy. And by taking on both simultaneously you risk more damage for no more benefit.Big_G_NorthWales said:White House News Conference with Trump and Swedish PM just now
One correspondent asks 'To what do you owe North Korea's open ness to talk' - ME
And he says that steel tariffs are to be applied but he is in talks with Canada and Mexico and hopes that a deal will be struck to exempt them, but not China or the EU.
He also went on to say the US has an 800 billion trade deficit and if the EU want to apply reciprocal tariffs he will apply a 45% tariff to all their cars coming into the US.
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But this is TrumpRecidivist said:
The thing is, as the USA you probably can afford a trade war and it might well help you domestically by rallying the patriotic behind you. But why do China and the EU at the same time? You only need one enemy. And by taking on both simultaneously you risk more damage for no more benefit.Big_G_NorthWales said:White House News Conference with Trump and Swedish PM just now
One correspondent asks 'To what do you owe North Korea's open ness to talk' - ME
And he says that steel tariffs are to be applied but he is in talks with Canada and Mexico and hopes that a deal will be struck to exempt them, but not China or the EU.
He also went on to say the US has an 800 billion trade deficit and if the EU want to apply reciprocal tariffs he will apply a 45% tariff to all their cars coming into the US.
He seems absolutely committed to a trade war but will exempt Countries who he can do a fair bi- lateral trade deal with0 -
Here we go again....
Violence breaks out as protesters storm King’s College London event featuring controversial YouTuber
Police are investigating after masked activists reportedly assaulted security guards as they barged into the university building, smashed windows, hurled smoke bombs and set off a fire alarm.
Masked activists dressed in black broke into a room on Monday evening where King’s College Libertarian Society was hosting an panel event with guest speakers Carl Benjamin and Dr Yaron Brook.
Benjamin, who uses the pseudonym Sargon of Akkad for his YouTube channel, is known for his anti-feminist and anti-progressive views
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/03/06/violence-breaks-self-proclaimed-antifascists-shut-alt-right/
I haven't watched any of his videos, but in the long form interview he did with Dave Rubin he described himself as a classical libertarian and while a bit odd, but didn't seem massively unhinged evil boogie man that was a massive danger to society nor any of the Milo-esque antics. He just sat there and banged on about Greek philosophers etc.0 -
As we are in the EU until the end of Trumps first term, it is not a problem for "them" it is a problem for "us".Big_G_NorthWales said:
Tonights direct threat by Trump to the EU of 45% tariffs on EU car imports are far more of a problem for them. He said that their trade deficit is so bad they can see out a trade war with the EUFreggles said:Tomorrow we get the EU guidelines on negotiating a trade deal with the UK.
Great moment for the German car manufacturers to step in as promised and pave the way for a bespoke Canada +++ deal. Frictionless trade and freedom from Brussels external tariffs.
"The easiest trade deal in history".
Can't wait....0 -
As I understand this that now means that Mourinho is helping Russia spread anti Western propaganda.TheScreamingEagles said:Jose Mourinho a pound shop Jeremy Corbyn ?
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/football/2018/mar/06/jose-mourinho-joins-rt-as-world-cup-pundit
Yes it may just appear like a conversation about football but in actual fact the real meaning will be the glory of Russia as compared with flawed Western democracies!
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Of course it isFoxy said:
As we are in the EU until the end of Trumps first term, it is not a problem for "them" it is a problem for "us".Big_G_NorthWales said:
Tonights direct threat by Trump to the EU of 45% tariffs on EU car imports are far more of a problem for them. He said that their trade deficit is so bad they can see out a trade war with the EUFreggles said:Tomorrow we get the EU guidelines on negotiating a trade deal with the UK.
Great moment for the German car manufacturers to step in as promised and pave the way for a bespoke Canada +++ deal. Frictionless trade and freedom from Brussels external tariffs.
"The easiest trade deal in history".
Can't wait....0 -
In a sense anyone who appears on RT helps make the station more attractive to viewers. So even if you are only talking about crochet, you are indirectly assisting them in spreading propaganda. Sensible people should stay well away from the station.TheJezziah said:
As I understand this that now means that Mourinho is helping Russia spread anti Western propaganda.TheScreamingEagles said:Jose Mourinho a pound shop Jeremy Corbyn ?
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/football/2018/mar/06/jose-mourinho-joins-rt-as-world-cup-pundit
Yes it may just appear like a conversation about football but in actual fact the real meaning will be the glory of Russia as compared with flawed Western democracies!0 -
Transition ends 31 Dec 2020, until then SM rules apply, Trump ends his first term in Jan 2021.Big_G_NorthWales said:
Of course it isFoxy said:
As we are in the EU until the end of Trumps first term, it is not a problem for "them" it is a problem for "us".Big_G_NorthWales said:
Tonights direct threat by Trump to the EU of 45% tariffs on EU car imports are far more of a problem for them. He said that their trade deficit is so bad they can see out a trade war with the EUFreggles said:Tomorrow we get the EU guidelines on negotiating a trade deal with the UK.
Great moment for the German car manufacturers to step in as promised and pave the way for a bespoke Canada +++ deal. Frictionless trade and freedom from Brussels external tariffs.
"The easiest trade deal in history".
Can't wait....
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I've actually watched/listened to a very small amount of his stuff, I think the accusation against him is that he's alt right. He does somewhat give off that impression, maybe it is mainly the anti feminist anti progressive stuff but he does seem to get along with some stuff you get from the alt right perspective. Never was fully convinced he is alt right either though, quite frankly it was just a lot of whining so I never watched much.FrancisUrquhart said:
I haven't watched any of his videos, but in the long form interview he did with Dave Rubin he described himself as a classical libertarian and while a bit odd, but didn't seem massively unhinged evil boogie man that was a massive danger to society nor any of the Milo-esque antics. He just sat there and banged on about Greek philosophers etc.
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I suppose it’s useful to know that KCL is not a university worthy of the name.FrancisUrquhart said:Here we go again....
Violence breaks out as protesters storm King’s College London event featuring controversial YouTuber
Police are investigating after masked activists reportedly assaulted security guards as they barged into the university building, smashed windows, hurled smoke bombs and set off a fire alarm.
Masked activists dressed in black broke into a room on Monday evening where King’s College Libertarian Society was hosting an panel event with guest speakers Carl Benjamin and Dr Yaron Brook.
Benjamin, who uses the pseudonym Sargon of Akkad for his YouTube channel, is known for his anti-feminist and anti-progressive views
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/03/06/violence-breaks-self-proclaimed-antifascists-shut-alt-right/
I haven't watched any of his videos, but in the long form interview he did with Dave Rubin he described himself as a classical libertarian and while a bit odd, but didn't seem massively unhinged evil boogie man that was a massive danger to society nor any of the Milo-esque antics. He just sat there and banged on about Greek philosophers etc.
Safe space marshals? God help us.
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In civil litigation you would not expect a proper examination in chief (i.e. by your on side) in any proceedings, merely to file and then affirm a witness statement. In criminal litigation, you would expect both an examination in chief and corss examination but only in a courtroom; indeed the whole point of a cross examination is to present the Court with the witness live so that their responses to the questions can be gauged.Ishmael_Z said:
No, because the person making the deposition can be cross-examined by the other side; in England you can only do that at trial, not in advance of it. I think.NickPalmer said:
Isn't it American for "statement"?Philip_Thompson said:For any lawyers/legal experts on the site, I see in American politics a lot on the American right are making a big deal about Christopher Steele not turning up to court in London for a deposition.
To my knowledge depositions aren't a thing in this country, although it might just be a different word, and I can't see any British media reporting anything about this. Is it fake news or something else?
The concept of the disposition is therefore alien, and I have no idea whether Steele can be compelled here. My gut instinct says that the US would require a UK court order, some sort of mandatory injunction, but would be likely to get tone.
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Trump has a saying for this...SADDDDDDDDDDDD....RoyalBlue said:
I suppose it’s useful to know that KCL is not a university worthy of the name.FrancisUrquhart said:Here we go again....
Violence breaks out as protesters storm King’s College London event featuring controversial YouTuber
Police are investigating after masked activists reportedly assaulted security guards as they barged into the university building, smashed windows, hurled smoke bombs and set off a fire alarm.
Masked activists dressed in black broke into a room on Monday evening where King’s College Libertarian Society was hosting an panel event with guest speakers Carl Benjamin and Dr Yaron Brook.
Benjamin, who uses the pseudonym Sargon of Akkad for his YouTube channel, is known for his anti-feminist and anti-progressive views
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/03/06/violence-breaks-self-proclaimed-antifascists-shut-alt-right/
I haven't watched any of his videos, but in the long form interview he did with Dave Rubin he described himself as a classical libertarian and while a bit odd, but didn't seem massively unhinged evil boogie man that was a massive danger to society nor any of the Milo-esque antics. He just sat there and banged on about Greek philosophers etc.
Safe space marshals? God help us.0 -
And of course there is no attempt at propaganda pushing by other tv news channels. I suppose at least with RT there is no pretence about it.glw said:
In a sense anyone who appears on RT helps make the station more attractive to viewers. So even if you are only talking about crochet, you are indirectly assisting them in spreading propaganda. Sensible people should stay well away from the station.TheJezziah said:
As I understand this that now means that Mourinho is helping Russia spread anti Western propaganda.TheScreamingEagles said:Jose Mourinho a pound shop Jeremy Corbyn ?
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/football/2018/mar/06/jose-mourinho-joins-rt-as-world-cup-pundit
Yes it may just appear like a conversation about football but in actual fact the real meaning will be the glory of Russia as compared with flawed Western democracies!
One person's propaganda is another person's truth - so it's always best to be a little sceptical whatever you watch. CNN doesn't like Trump - Fox is more supportive. Sky news doesn't seem too keen on being positive about Brexit.0 -
Stupid twats have a Libertarian soc too...RoyalBlue said:
I suppose it’s useful to know that KCL is not a university worthy of the name.FrancisUrquhart said:Here we go again....
Violence breaks out as protesters storm King’s College London event featuring controversial YouTuber
Police are investigating after masked activists reportedly assaulted security guards as they barged into the university building, smashed windows, hurled smoke bombs and set off a fire alarm.
Masked activists dressed in black broke into a room on Monday evening where King’s College Libertarian Society was hosting an panel event with guest speakers Carl Benjamin and Dr Yaron Brook.
Benjamin, who uses the pseudonym Sargon of Akkad for his YouTube channel, is known for his anti-feminist and anti-progressive views
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/03/06/violence-breaks-self-proclaimed-antifascists-shut-alt-right/
I haven't watched any of his videos, but in the long form interview he did with Dave Rubin he described himself as a classical libertarian and while a bit odd, but didn't seem massively unhinged evil boogie man that was a massive danger to society nor any of the Milo-esque antics. He just sat there and banged on about Greek philosophers etc.
Safe space marshals? God help us.0 -
This sort of false equivalence crap is just what the Russians want. You might want to ponder that before you make such arguments in future.brendan16 said:And of course there is no attempt at propaganda pushing by other tv news channels. I suppose at least with RT there is no pretence about it.
One person's propaganda is another person's truth - so it's always best to be a little sceptical whatever you watch. CNN doesn't like Trump - Fox is more supportive. Sky news doesn't seem too keen on being positive about Brexit.
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Member of the emergency services attending the Skripal incident apparently also in hospital...
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Last one out please remember to turn off the lights...Scott_P said:0 -
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Paper reviewer suggesting the Times have said 10 emergency workers are illNigelb said:Member of the emergency services attending the Skripal incident apparently also in hospital...
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Wow. This is getting serious...Big_G_NorthWales said:
Paper reviewer suggesting the Times have said 10 emergency workers are illNigelb said:Member of the emergency services attending the Skripal incident apparently also in hospital...
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Zizzi's food is terrible ;-)Big_G_NorthWales said:
Paper reviewer suggesting the Times have said 10 emergency workers are illNigelb said:Member of the emergency services attending the Skripal incident apparently also in hospital...
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He's a bit like that pub bore who has read a couple of library books and thinks he is a well informed intellectual. I can imagine someone jumping out the window to get away from him. Of course his rights to free speech should be protected.TheJezziah said:
I've actually watched/listened to a very small amount of his stuff, I think the accusation against him is that he's alt right. He does somewhat give off that impression, maybe it is mainly the anti feminist anti progressive stuff but he does seem to get along with some stuff you get from the alt right perspective. Never was fully convinced he is alt right either though, quite frankly it was just a lot of whining so I never watched much.FrancisUrquhart said:
I haven't watched any of his videos, but in the long form interview he did with Dave Rubin he described himself as a classical libertarian and while a bit odd, but didn't seem massively unhinged evil boogie man that was a massive danger to society nor any of the Milo-esque antics. He just sat there and banged on about Greek philosophers etc.
Edit: I think he has actually denied being alt right himself.0 -
They are reported to be extending the exclusion zones. This is extremely worryingGIN1138 said:
Wow. This is getting serious...Big_G_NorthWales said:
Paper reviewer suggesting the Times have said 10 emergency workers are illNigelb said:Member of the emergency services attending the Skripal incident apparently also in hospital...
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Wonder what on earth the poison was/is?Big_G_NorthWales said:
They are reported to be extending the exclusion zones. This is extremely worryingGIN1138 said:
Wow. This is getting serious...Big_G_NorthWales said:
Paper reviewer suggesting the Times have said 10 emergency workers are illNigelb said:Member of the emergency services attending the Skripal incident apparently also in hospital...
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The Sun is now reporting that Thallium poisoning is suspected.GIN1138 said:
Wow. This is getting serious...Big_G_NorthWales said:
Paper reviewer suggesting the Times have said 10 emergency workers are illNigelb said:Member of the emergency services attending the Skripal incident apparently also in hospital...
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If anyone is proven to have acted in a criminal way and they are a student they should be expelled from their course with no way backRecidivist said:
He's a bit like that pub bore who has read a couple of library books and thinks he is a well informed intellectual. I can imagine someone jumping out the window to get away from him. Of course his rights to free speech should be protected.TheJezziah said:
I've actually watched/listened to a very small amount of his stuff, I think the accusation against him is that he's alt right. He does somewhat give off that impression, maybe it is mainly the anti feminist anti progressive stuff but he does seem to get along with some stuff you get from the alt right perspective. Never was fully convinced he is alt right either though, quite frankly it was just a lot of whining so I never watched much.FrancisUrquhart said:
I haven't watched any of his videos, but in the long form interview he did with Dave Rubin he described himself as a classical libertarian and while a bit odd, but didn't seem massively unhinged evil boogie man that was a massive danger to society nor any of the Milo-esque antics. He just sat there and banged on about Greek philosophers etc.
Edit: I think he has actually denied being alt right himself.0 -
Or, alternatively there is a difference between helping support their political narrative and football. Of course, you would not be the first Jezza cultist too blinkered to grasp an argument.TheJezziah said:
As I understand this that now means that Mourinho is helping Russia spread anti Western propaganda.TheScreamingEagles said:Jose Mourinho a pound shop Jeremy Corbyn ?
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/football/2018/mar/06/jose-mourinho-joins-rt-as-world-cup-pundit
Yes it may just appear like a conversation about football but in actual fact the real meaning will be the glory of Russia as compared with flawed Western democracies!0 -
Honestly thought that was Claude from the apprentice initially!FrancisUrquhart said:
Last one out please remember to turn off the lights...Scott_P said:0 -
Would that affect people attending the scene though?glw said:
The Sun is now reporting that Thallium poisoning is suspected.GIN1138 said:
Wow. This is getting serious...Big_G_NorthWales said:
Paper reviewer suggesting the Times have said 10 emergency workers are illNigelb said:Member of the emergency services attending the Skripal incident apparently also in hospital...
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