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Sky - Trump seriously considering moving the US Embassy to Jerusalem having given it further thought.
He is a mad man - though I think that is a given0 -
Arch remaining paper - again remainers fighting their lost campaignScott_P said:0 -
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Its amazing how party activists always seem to be the ones asking the questions on QT.Brom said:Turns out the woman who ruined Question Time...
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5124911/How-mans-aftershave-caused-Question-Time-cut-short.html
Is batshit mental...
https://order-order.com/people/sioux-blair-jordan/0 -
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I think the Secretary of State has discretionary powers to waive any of the usual requirements. Here in the US it's not unheard of for individuals to be granted Green Cards and even citizenship through private Acts of Congress.RobD said:
I wonder if there’s a special immigration procedure for situations like these, or do they just nod things through?Scott_P said:@MrHarryCole: Meghan Markle to be baptised, confirmed and become a British citizen before a May wedding at Windsor, Palace say.
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Remainers seem in near panic as we are only days away from agreement to move to trade talks0
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To help her integration lets get Harry's future wife to spell her name the Welsh way of Megan instead of the American way of Meghan.Cyclefree said:
Agree entirely. So let's focus on properly integrating those who are here and are citizens. Rather than making the problem potentially very much worse by letting in huge numbers more and making the issue of integration that much harder. And let's ensure that we really do insist on Western values applying to citizens of Western countries by not permitting the spread of, for instance, a legal system which is completely at odds with our laws thus depriving English Muslim women of their rights. For instance.IanB2 said:
Neither do I. But we have to strive to make things better, not worse, starting from where we actually are, not where you might wish that we were.Cyclefree said:IanB2 said:On topic, symbolism is something the British do very well, when we put our minds to it. Our monarchy being almost entirely symbolic, after all.
Look back at our acclaimed 2012 Olympic opening ceremony and that could generate a whole list by itself. HMQ 'jumping' from a helicopter. The Olympic Flame being lit, for the first time not by a veteran competitor, but by a group of young upcoming athletes. Etc.
Much as I abhor Cyclefree's mini-me SeanT agenda when it comes to Islam, on the cartoons and free speech I can see that she does have a point.
I had no views on Islam until I saw that book burning and the reaction to it. Read Christopher Hitchens on the Rushdie fatwa in his autobiography. He sums up pretty well how I felt.
My concerns with Islam stem from my belief that liberal values - such as freedom of thought and speech - are a good end in themselves and matter and I don't want them curtailed or removed because we refuse to be clear-sighted about what it means to have a largely credal culture at odds in certain significant ways with Western liberal values, as - say - set out in the ECHR - living in our midst.
Best summarised in this thread header - http://www2.politicalbetting.com/index.php/archives/2017/01/29/angels-and-fools-cyclefree-on-trumps-latest-executive-order/.0 -
My birthday.SandyRentool said:
No nuns and no priests and no rosary beads, every day is the twelfth of July.Scott_P said:@MrHarryCole: Meghan Markle to be baptised, confirmed and become a British citizen before a May wedding at Windsor, Palace say.
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Good news! And back on PB already!Big_G_NorthWales said:Having undergone my bi lateral hernia operation yesterday morning and then told I had to walk to my lift in the car park I reflected on my hernia operation in 1973 with a ten day stay in the local hospital.
After coming round I was offered unlimited tea and a piece of toast then told to get dressed on my own and the family could collect me. Everyone was delightful and by the time I had reached my lift I felt quite pleased with myself and very definitely good practice. Very sore with lots of pain killers and no driving for two weeks but I was very grateful to all the medical staff even though I waited 65 weeks for the operation in labour's Wales NHS.
The news today of an amazing two months in the Spring should lift the Country though Republicans and the hard left will not be amused.
Early April Katherine's third child is due, the middle week of April is the Commonwealth Heads of State conference in London (lots of trade deals) and then in mid May a wedding in Windsor Castle with Union Jack's everywhere.
Following on a good trade deal with the states will put the icing on the cake0 -
I'm glad everything went well, and sorry you had to wait for such a long time. Take it easy!Big_G_NorthWales said:Having undergone my bi lateral hernia operation yesterday morning and then told I had to walk to my lift in the car park I reflected on my hernia operation in 1973 with a ten day stay in the local hospital.
After coming round I was offered unlimited tea and a piece of toast then told to get dressed on my own and the family could collect me. Everyone was delightful and by the time I had reached my lift I felt quite pleased with myself and very definitely good practice. Very sore with lots of pain killers and no driving for two weeks but I was very grateful to all the medical staff even though I waited 65 weeks for the operation in labour's Wales NHS.
The news today of an amazing two months in the Spring should lift the Country though Republicans and the hard left will not be amused.
Early April Katherine's third child is due, the middle week of April is the Commonwealth Heads of State conference in London (lots of trade deals) and then in mid May a wedding in Windsor Castle with Union Jack's everywhere.
Following on a good trade deal with the states will put the icing on the cake0 -
My late sister had rosary beeds though a life long member of the COE. Mind you the COE high church is fairly near to the Catholic ChurchRichard_Tyndall said:
My birthday.SandyRentool said:
No nuns and no priests and no rosary beads, every day is the twelfth of July.Scott_P said:@MrHarryCole: Meghan Markle to be baptised, confirmed and become a British citizen before a May wedding at Windsor, Palace say.
I do question some who are suggesting she has no faith. I do not believe anyone can make such a judgement as faith is a personal matter for the individual0 -
They are barking up the wrong tree if they think they will ever get anywhere under FPTP. They will be hounded from office if they ever try.Scott_P said:0 -
Should we put the Sun down as 'undecided'?:
IRELAND’S outspoken premier was left humiliated today by the resignation of his deputy - but fresh Brexit chaos was diverted by the departure to the delight of Downing Street.
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/5018617/irelands-prime-minister-leo-varadkar-left-humiliated-by-the-resignation-of-his-deputy-frances-fitzgerald-but-fresh-election-avoided/0 -
I don't get your distinction between "over 50 separate reports" and, say, "57 sets of analyses". Especially as Davis' department hasn't actually handed over 57 sets of analyses.Richard_Nabavi said:
Your link confirms my point. Ministers repeatedly said they were doing analyses "of over 50 sectors of the economy", with variants of that phrase. They didn't say they had over 50 separate reports.FF43 said:But David Davis did claim they had 50+ sectoral reports on many occasions. Ministers are being dishonest about about that fact, maybe even misleading you?
"In excruciating detail", as David Davis would say, here:
http://jackofkent.com/2017/11/the-early-history-of-the-58-brexit-sector-analyses/0 -
Thank you - yes I do intend taking it easy but am blessed with a wonderful wife and a fabulous familyRoyalBlue said:
I'm glad everything went well, and sorry you had to wait for such a long time. Take it easy!Big_G_NorthWales said:Having undergone my bi lateral hernia operation yesterday morning and then told I had to walk to my lift in the car park I reflected on my hernia operation in 1973 with a ten day stay in the local hospital.
After coming round I was offered unlimited tea and a piece of toast then told to get dressed on my own and the family could collect me. Everyone was delightful and by the time I had reached my lift I felt quite pleased with myself and very definitely good practice. Very sore with lots of pain killers and no driving for two weeks but I was very grateful to all the medical staff even though I waited 65 weeks for the operation in labour's Wales NHS.
The news today of an amazing two months in the Spring should lift the Country though Republicans and the hard left will not be amused.
Early April Katherine's third child is due, the middle week of April is the Commonwealth Heads of State conference in London (lots of trade deals) and then in mid May a wedding in Windsor Castle with Union Jack's everywhere.
Following on a good trade deal with the states will put the icing on the cake0 -
Congrats and welcome back.Big_G_NorthWales said:Having undergone my bi lateral hernia operation yesterday morning and then told I had to walk to my lift in the car park I reflected on my hernia operation in 1973 with a ten day stay in the local hospital.
After coming round I was offered unlimited tea and a piece of toast then told to get dressed on my own and the family could collect me. Everyone was delightful and by the time I had reached my lift I felt quite pleased with myself and very definitely good practice. Very sore with lots of pain killers and no driving for two weeks but I was very grateful to all the medical staff even though I waited 65 weeks for the operation in labour's Wales NHS.
The news today of an amazing two months in the Spring should lift the Country though Republicans and the hard left will not be amused.
Early April Katherine's third child is due, the middle week of April is the Commonwealth Heads of State conference in London (lots of trade deals) and then in mid May a wedding in Windsor Castle with Union Jack's everywhere.
Following on a good trade deal with the states will put the icing on the cake0 -
We should put them down as illiterate, since they seem confused by the difference between 'averted' and 'diverted'.CarlottaVance said:Should we put the Sun down as 'undecided'?:
IRELAND’S outspoken premier was left humiliated today by the resignation of his deputy - but fresh Brexit chaos was diverted by the departure to the delight of Downing Street.0 -
Yes - amazing the surgery is done in a day and back home to recover.FF43 said:
Good news! And back on PB already!Big_G_NorthWales said:Having undergone my bi lateral hernia operation yesterday morning and then told I had to walk to my lift in the car park I reflected on my hernia operation in 1973 with a ten day stay in the local hospital.
After coming round I was offered unlimited tea and a piece of toast then told to get dressed on my own and the family could collect me. Everyone was delightful and by the time I had reached my lift I felt quite pleased with myself and very definitely good practice. Very sore with lots of pain killers and no driving for two weeks but I was very grateful to all the medical staff even though I waited 65 weeks for the operation in labour's Wales NHS.
The news today of an amazing two months in the Spring should lift the Country though Republicans and the hard left will not be amused.
Early April Katherine's third child is due, the middle week of April is the Commonwealth Heads of State conference in London (lots of trade deals) and then in mid May a wedding in Windsor Castle with Union Jack's everywhere.
Following on a good trade deal with the states will put the icing on the cake0 -
I wish people on tw@tter would stop doing this shit where they post 100 tweets as a "thread". Just write what you are going to say into a text doc, and link it / screenshot it.AlastairMeeks said:0 -
I am not in the C of E, but Confirmation requires a certain amount of instruction and agreement with the Articles of faith. Only God knows whether anyone truly believes them.Big_G_NorthWales said:
My late sister had rosary beeds though a life long member of the COE. Mind you the COE high church is fairly near to the Catholic ChurchRichard_Tyndall said:
My birthday.SandyRentool said:
No nuns and no priests and no rosary beads, every day is the twelfth of July.Scott_P said:@MrHarryCole: Meghan Markle to be baptised, confirmed and become a British citizen before a May wedding at Windsor, Palace say.
I do question some who are suggesting she has no faith. I do not believe anyone can make such a judgement as faith is a personal matter for the individual
My own NonConformist view is that God is not a stickler for paperwork, and that Baptism/Confirmation or their absence is not a dealbreaker.0 -
Or join Medium.FrancisUrquhart said:
I wish people on tw@tter would stop doing this shit where they post 100 tweets as a "thread". Just write what you are going to say into a text doc, and link it / screenshot it.AlastairMeeks said:0 -
+1foxinsoxuk said:
I am not in the C of E, but Confirmation requires a certain amount of instruction and agreement with the Articles of faith. Only God knows whether anyone truly believes them.Big_G_NorthWales said:
My late sister had rosary beeds though a life long member of the COE. Mind you the COE high church is fairly near to the Catholic ChurchRichard_Tyndall said:
My birthday.SandyRentool said:
No nuns and no priests and no rosary beads, every day is the twelfth of July.Scott_P said:@MrHarryCole: Meghan Markle to be baptised, confirmed and become a British citizen before a May wedding at Windsor, Palace say.
I do question some who are suggesting she has no faith. I do not believe anyone can make such a judgement as faith is a personal matter for the individual
My own NonConformist view is that God is not a stickler for paperwork, and that Baptism/Confirmation or their absence is not a dealbreaker.0 -
Click on it and have a look, it is rather goodFrancisUrquhart said:
I wish people on tw@tter would stop doing this shit where they post 100 tweets as a "thread". Just write what you are going to say into a text doc, and link it / screenshot it.AlastairMeeks said:
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Maybe they were right after all. Where has the chaos been 'diverted' to one wonders?Richard_Nabavi said:
We should put them down as illiterate, since they seem confused by the difference between 'averted' and 'diverted'.CarlottaVance said:Should we put the Sun down as 'undecided'?:
IRELAND’S outspoken premier was left humiliated today by the resignation of his deputy - but fresh Brexit chaos was diverted by the departure to the delight of Downing Street.0 -
You can sit on the prom and gaze at the offshore windmillsBig_G_NorthWales said:
Thank you - yes I do intend taking it easy but am blessed with a wonderful wife and a fabulous familyRoyalBlue said:
I'm glad everything went well, and sorry you had to wait for such a long time. Take it easy!Big_G_NorthWales said:Having undergone my bi lateral hernia operation yesterday morning and then told I had to walk to my lift in the car park I reflected on my hernia operation in 1973 with a ten day stay in the local hospital.
After coming round I was offered unlimited tea and a piece of toast then told to get dressed on my own and the family could collect me. Everyone was delightful and by the time I had reached my lift I felt quite pleased with myself and very definitely good practice. Very sore with lots of pain killers and no driving for two weeks but I was very grateful to all the medical staff even though I waited 65 weeks for the operation in labour's Wales NHS.
The news today of an amazing two months in the Spring should lift the Country though Republicans and the hard left will not be amused.
Early April Katherine's third child is due, the middle week of April is the Commonwealth Heads of State conference in London (lots of trade deals) and then in mid May a wedding in Windsor Castle with Union Jack's everywhere.
Following on a good trade deal with the states will put the icing on the cake
I imagine the Llandudno town band has packed up for the winter, unless they want to get frozen to their instruments...
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Welcome back. Glad it all went well.Big_G_NorthWales said:
Thank you - yes I do intend taking it easy but am blessed with a wonderful wife and a fabulous familyRoyalBlue said:
I'm glad everything went well, and sorry you had to wait for such a long time. Take it easy!Big_G_NorthWales said:Having undergone my bi lateral hernia operation yesterday morning and then told I had to walk to my lift in the car park I reflected on my hernia operation in 1973 with a ten day stay in the local hospital.
After coming round I was offered unlimited tea and a piece of toast then told to get dressed on my own and the family could collect me. Everyone was delightful and by the time I had reached my lift I felt quite pleased with myself and very definitely good practice. Very sore with lots of pain killers and no driving for two weeks but I was very grateful to all the medical staff even though I waited 65 weeks for the operation in labour's Wales NHS.
The news today of an amazing two months in the Spring should lift the Country though Republicans and the hard left will not be amused.
Early April Katherine's third child is due, the middle week of April is the Commonwealth Heads of State conference in London (lots of trade deals) and then in mid May a wedding in Windsor Castle with Union Jack's everywhere.
Following on a good trade deal with the states will put the icing on the cake0 -
Done laproscopically?Big_G_NorthWales said:
Yes - amazing the surgery is done in a day and back home to recover.FF43 said:
Good news! And back on PB already!Big_G_NorthWales said:Having undergone my bi lateral hernia operation yesterday morning and then told I had to walk to my lift in the car park I reflected on my hernia operation in 1973 with a ten day stay in the local hospital.
After coming round I was offered unlimited tea and a piece of toast then told to get dressed on my own and the family could collect me. Everyone was delightful and by the time I had reached my lift I felt quite pleased with myself and very definitely good practice. Very sore with lots of pain killers and no driving for two weeks but I was very grateful to all the medical staff even though I waited 65 weeks for the operation in labour's Wales NHS.
The news today of an amazing two months in the Spring should lift the Country though Republicans and the hard left will not be amused.
Early April Katherine's third child is due, the middle week of April is the Commonwealth Heads of State conference in London (lots of trade deals) and then in mid May a wedding in Windsor Castle with Union Jack's everywhere.
Following on a good trade deal with the states will put the icing on the cake
Best wishes for a full speedy recovery.0 -
This party is so wrong. If only they had been the 'Larry the Downing Street Cat for PM' then it would romp home.foxinsoxuk said:
They are barking up the wrong tree if they think they will ever get anywhere under FPTP. They will be hounded from office if they ever try.Scott_P said:
They could be in coalition with Brian Cox's Rational Quanta Party.0 -
A table showing the effect on, say, 20 sectors of manufacturing can appear in one report, and the same report can contain details of consultations with businesses in those 20 sectors. So handing over one report can contain the result of 20 analyses, or more precisely, analysis of 20 sectors, which is the formulation used in nearly all of the ministerial responses which Jack of Kent is so keen to attempt to make political capital of.FF43 said:I don't get your distinction between "over 50 separate reports" and, say, "57 sets of analyses". Especially as Davis' department hasn't actually handed over 57 sets of analyses.
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No - open and thank you to your professionfoxinsoxuk said:
Done laproscopically?Big_G_NorthWales said:
Yes - amazing the surgery is done in a day and back home to recover.FF43 said:
Good news! And back on PB already!Big_G_NorthWales said:Having undergone my bi lateral hernia operation yesterday morning and then told I had to walk to my lift in the car park I reflected on my hernia operation in 1973 with a ten day stay in the local hospital.
After coming round I was offered unlimited tea and a piece of toast then told to get dressed on my own and the family could collect me. Everyone was delightful and by the time I had reached my lift I felt quite pleased with myself and very definitely good practice. Very sore with lots of pain killers and no driving for two weeks but I was very grateful to all the medical staff even though I waited 65 weeks for the operation in labour's Wales NHS.
The news today of an amazing two months in the Spring should lift the Country though Republicans and the hard left will not be amused.
Early April Katherine's third child is due, the middle week of April is the Commonwealth Heads of State conference in London (lots of trade deals) and then in mid May a wedding in Windsor Castle with Union Jack's everywhere.
Following on a good trade deal with the states will put the icing on the cake
Best wishes for a full speedy recovery.0 -
If there’s ‘insufficient progress’ in December, I wonder if May’s joker in the pack could be a referendum on staying in the single market and customs union in Northern Ireland.0
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Thank you and glad to be in the recovery phaserottenborough said:
Welcome back. Glad it all went well.Big_G_NorthWales said:
Thank you - yes I do intend taking it easy but am blessed with a wonderful wife and a fabulous familyRoyalBlue said:
I'm glad everything went well, and sorry you had to wait for such a long time. Take it easy!Big_G_NorthWales said:Having undergone my bi lateral hernia operation yesterday morning and then told I had to walk to my lift in the car park I reflected on my hernia operation in 1973 with a ten day stay in the local hospital.
After coming round I was offered unlimited tea and a piece of toast then told to get dressed on my own and the family could collect me. Everyone was delightful and by the time I had reached my lift I felt quite pleased with myself and very definitely good practice. Very sore with lots of pain killers and no driving for two weeks but I was very grateful to all the medical staff even though I waited 65 weeks for the operation in labour's Wales NHS.
The news today of an amazing two months in the Spring should lift the Country though Republicans and the hard left will not be amused.
Early April Katherine's third child is due, the middle week of April is the Commonwealth Heads of State conference in London (lots of trade deals) and then in mid May a wedding in Windsor Castle with Union Jack's everywhere.
Following on a good trade deal with the states will put the icing on the cake0 -
Can't keep a good man down.Big_G_NorthWales said:Having undergone my bi lateral hernia operation yesterday morning and then told I had to walk to my lift in the car park I reflected on my hernia operation in 1973 with a ten day stay in the local hospital.
After coming round I was offered unlimited tea and a piece of toast then told to get dressed on my own and the family could collect me. Everyone was delightful and by the time I had reached my lift I felt quite pleased with myself and very definitely good practice. Very sore with lots of pain killers and no driving for two weeks but I was very grateful to all the medical staff even though I waited 65 weeks for the operation in labour's Wales NHS.
The news today of an amazing two months in the Spring should lift the Country though Republicans and the hard left will not be amused.
Early April Katherine's third child is due, the middle week of April is the Commonwealth Heads of State conference in London (lots of trade deals) and then in mid May a wedding in Windsor Castle with Union Jack's everywhere.
Following on a good trade deal with the states will put the icing on the cake
I think Welsh rugby needs you!0 -
However illiterate the Suns writers may be, their headline writers are in a league of their own.Richard_Nabavi said:
We should put them down as illiterate, since they seem confused by the difference between 'averted' and 'diverted'.CarlottaVance said:Should we put the Sun down as 'undecided'?:
IRELAND’S outspoken premier was left humiliated today by the resignation of his deputy - but fresh Brexit chaos was diverted by the departure to the delight of Downing Street.
When a reporter complained how much more they got paid he was despatched to Essex to write about a shortage of library books.
After the story was ready to go to press the editor called him up to see the headline: 'Book Lack in Ongar'......0 -
Won’t Scotland want one then? And Grimsby?williamglenn said:If there’s ‘insufficient progress’ in December, I wonder if May’s joker in the pack could be a referendum on staying in the single market and customs union in Northern Ireland.
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Welcome back, Mr. NorthWales. Glad it went well.0
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rottenborough said:
Maybe they were right after all. Where has the chaos been 'diverted' to one wonders?Richard_Nabavi said:
We should put them down as illiterate, since they seem confused by the difference between 'averted' and 'diverted'.CarlottaVance said:Should we put the Sun down as 'undecided'?:
IRELAND’S outspoken premier was left humiliated today by the resignation of his deputy - but fresh Brexit chaos was diverted by the departure to the delight of Downing Street.
I fear it may indeed have been 'diverted' rather than 'averted'.....I'm sure its still out there somewhere.....0 -
Definitely vote dog not cat.rottenborough said:
This party is so wrong. If only they had been the 'Larry the Downing Street Cat for PM' then it would romp home.foxinsoxuk said:
They are barking up the wrong tree if they think they will ever get anywhere under FPTP. They will be hounded from office if they ever try.Scott_P said:
They could be in coalition with Brian Cox's Rational Quanta Party.
Politicians need to be loyal, obedient and able to bite intruders, not just make themselves comfortable and kill wildlife. Dogs are servants, cats are masters.0 -
No recourse to public funds?RobD said:
I wonder if there’s a special immigration procedure for situations like these, or do they just nod things through?Scott_P said:@MrHarryCole: Meghan Markle to be baptised, confirmed and become a British citizen before a May wedding at Windsor, Palace say.
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Thanks but made my eyes waterMarqueeMark said:
Can't keep a good man down.Big_G_NorthWales said:Having undergone my bi lateral hernia operation yesterday morning and then told I had to walk to my lift in the car park I reflected on my hernia operation in 1973 with a ten day stay in the local hospital.
After coming round I was offered unlimited tea and a piece of toast then told to get dressed on my own and the family could collect me. Everyone was delightful and by the time I had reached my lift I felt quite pleased with myself and very definitely good practice. Very sore with lots of pain killers and no driving for two weeks but I was very grateful to all the medical staff even though I waited 65 weeks for the operation in labour's Wales NHS.
The news today of an amazing two months in the Spring should lift the Country though Republicans and the hard left will not be amused.
Early April Katherine's third child is due, the middle week of April is the Commonwealth Heads of State conference in London (lots of trade deals) and then in mid May a wedding in Windsor Castle with Union Jack's everywhere.
Following on a good trade deal with the states will put the icing on the cake
I think Welsh rugby needs you!0 -
Indeed, it could snowball until people decide they want the whole question of Brexit reopened...rkrkrk said:
Won’t Scotland want one then? And Grimsby?williamglenn said:If there’s ‘insufficient progress’ in December, I wonder if May’s joker in the pack could be a referendum on staying in the single market and customs union in Northern Ireland.
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+1Morris_Dancer said:Welcome back, Mr. NorthWales. Glad it went well.
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Yes welcome back. Glad to hear it went wellCyclefree said:
Glad it went well. Best of luck with your recuperation.Big_G_NorthWales said:Having undergone my bi lateral hernia operation yesterday morning and then told I had to walk to my lift in the car park I reflected on my hernia operation in 1973 with a ten day stay in the local hospital.
After coming round I was offered unlimited tea and a piece of toast then told to get dressed on my own and the family could collect me. Everyone was delightful and by the time I had reached my lift I felt quite pleased with myself and very definitely good practice. Very sore with lots of pain killers and no driving for two weeks but I was very grateful to all the medical staff even though I waited 65 weeks for the operation in labour's Wales NHS.
The news today of an amazing two months in the Spring should lift the Country though Republicans and the hard left will not be amused.
Early April Katherine's third child is due, the middle week of April is the Commonwealth Heads of State conference in London (lots of trade deals) and then in mid May a wedding in Windsor Castle with Union Jack's everywhere.
Following on a good trade deal with the states will put the icing on the cake
And nice to have you back.0 -
Yes thank you but need to be kind to myself for a few weeksMorris_Dancer said:Welcome back, Mr. NorthWales. Glad it went well.
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"Who said there were going to be 57 more tweets?"FrancisUrquhart said:
I wish people on tw@tter would stop doing this shit where they post 100 tweets as a "thread". Just write what you are going to say into a text doc, and link it / screenshot it.AlastairMeeks said:
I think the term is 'lol'.
No-one will, mind you.0 -
Thanks - just need recovery time but home is bestrkrkrk said:
Yes welcome back. Glad to hear it went wellCyclefree said:
Glad it went well. Best of luck with your recuperation.Big_G_NorthWales said:Having undergone my bi lateral hernia operation yesterday morning and then told I had to walk to my lift in the car park I reflected on my hernia operation in 1973 with a ten day stay in the local hospital.
After coming round I was offered unlimited tea and a piece of toast then told to get dressed on my own and the family could collect me. Everyone was delightful and by the time I had reached my lift I felt quite pleased with myself and very definitely good practice. Very sore with lots of pain killers and no driving for two weeks but I was very grateful to all the medical staff even though I waited 65 weeks for the operation in labour's Wales NHS.
The news today of an amazing two months in the Spring should lift the Country though Republicans and the hard left will not be amused.
Early April Katherine's third child is due, the middle week of April is the Commonwealth Heads of State conference in London (lots of trade deals) and then in mid May a wedding in Windsor Castle with Union Jack's everywhere.
Following on a good trade deal with the states will put the icing on the cake
And nice to have you back.0 -
I think that rather rules it out as an idea for Theresa May then.williamglenn said:
Indeed, it could snowball until people decide they want the whole question of Brexit reopened...rkrkrk said:
Won’t Scotland want one then? And Grimsby?williamglenn said:If there’s ‘insufficient progress’ in December, I wonder if May’s joker in the pack could be a referendum on staying in the single market and customs union in Northern Ireland.
Now could Labour square their circle by offering a referendum on that?
Perhaps. It would be amusing to rerun the 2015 referendum arguments in reverse...0 -
I saw the gag, I meant it as a wider point. It is the new "trend" and it is bloody annoying.BannedInParis said:
"Who said there were going to be 57 more tweets?"FrancisUrquhart said:
I wish people on tw@tter would stop doing this shit where they post 100 tweets as a "thread". Just write what you are going to say into a text doc, and link it / screenshot it.AlastairMeeks said:
I think the term is 'lol'.
No-one will, mind you.0 -
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and how better to relax and recover than reading PB threads!!Big_G_NorthWales said:
Thanks - just need recovery time but home is bestrkrkrk said:
Yes welcome back. Glad to hear it went wellCyclefree said:
Glad it went well. Best of luck with your recuperation.Big_G_NorthWales said:Having undergone my bi lateral hernia operation yesterday morning and then told I had to walk to my lift in the car park I reflected on my hernia operation in 1973 with a ten day stay in the local hospital.
After coming round I was offered unlimited tea and a piece of toast then told to get dressed on my own and the family could collect me. Everyone was delightful and by the time I had reached my lift I felt quite pleased with myself and very definitely good practice. Very sore with lots of pain killers and no driving for two weeks but I was very grateful to all the medical staff even though I waited 65 weeks for the operation in labour's Wales NHS.
The news today of an amazing two months in the Spring should lift the Country though Republicans and the hard left will not be amused.
Early April Katherine's third child is due, the middle week of April is the Commonwealth Heads of State conference in London (lots of trade deals) and then in mid May a wedding in Windsor Castle with Union Jack's everywhere.
Following on a good trade deal with the states will put the icing on the cake
And nice to have you back.0 -
Absolutelyrottenborough said:
and how better to relax and recover than reading PB threads!!Big_G_NorthWales said:
Thanks - just need recovery time but home is bestrkrkrk said:
Yes welcome back. Glad to hear it went wellCyclefree said:
Glad it went well. Best of luck with your recuperation.Big_G_NorthWales said:Having undergone my bi lateral hernia operation yesterday morning and then told I had to walk to my lift in the car park I reflected on my hernia operation in 1973 with a ten day stay in the local hospital.
After coming round I was offered unlimited tea and a piece of toast then told to get dressed on my own and the family could collect me. Everyone was delightful and by the time I had reached my lift I felt quite pleased with myself and very definitely good practice. Very sore with lots of pain killers and no driving for two weeks but I was very grateful to all the medical staff even though I waited 65 weeks for the operation in labour's Wales NHS.
The news today of an amazing two months in the Spring should lift the Country though Republicans and the hard left will not be amused.
Early April Katherine's third child is due, the middle week of April is the Commonwealth Heads of State conference in London (lots of trade deals) and then in mid May a wedding in Windsor Castle with Union Jack's everywhere.
Following on a good trade deal with the states will put the icing on the cake
And nice to have you back.0 -
The Telegraph understands that the final figure, which is deliberately being left open to interpretation, will be between €45bn and €55bn.calum said:
So lets call it 50bn...so even higher than the 40bn quoted last week.0 -
So cats are the Libertarians of politics? Do what they like, rules don't apply, kill wildlife...foxinsoxuk said:
Definitely vote dog not cat.rottenborough said:
This party is so wrong. If only they had been the 'Larry the Downing Street Cat for PM' then it would romp home.foxinsoxuk said:
They are barking up the wrong tree if they think they will ever get anywhere under FPTP. They will be hounded from office if they ever try.Scott_P said:
They could be in coalition with Brian Cox's Rational Quanta Party.
Politicians need to be loyal, obedient and able to bite intruders, not just make themselves comfortable and kill wildlife. Dogs are servants, cats are masters.0 -
Not a good day for the remainers - we are leavingcalum said:0 -
Sounds like progress!calum said:
Rumours Big G was not in fact in hospital but instead on a secret diplomatic mission unconfirmed....0 -
er, which just leaves Ireland...Big_G_NorthWales said:
Not a good day for the remainers - we are leavingcalum said:0 -
Ignore the facts cos you don’t like the sourceBig_G_NorthWales said:
Arch remaining paper - again remainers fighting their lost campaignScott_P said:0 -
As an aside - a Brexit figure agreed in euros leaves us on the hook for one helluva exchange rate risk.... or upside I guess if the pound strengthens.0
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Just about now, someone in Labour HQ is emailing Labour MPs:
Please note our Agreed Position on the Brexit bill has just changed. The previous position of "This Conservative government is risking Britain's economy by refusing to agree the exit bill with the EU, acting as always for the few, not the many." should no longer be used. The new position is "This Conservative government is shamelessly wasting taxpayers' money on the EU exit bill, acting as always for big business, not ordinary people."0 -
Just rejoice at that news!calum said:0 -
Not sure Labour HQ are so quick off the mark.Richard_Nabavi said:Just about now, someone in Labour HQ is emailing Labour MPs:
Please note our Agreed Position on the Brexit bill has just changed. The previous position of "This Conservative government is risking Britain's economy by refusing to agree the exit bill with the EU, acting as always for the few, not the many." should no longer be used. The new position is "This Conservative government is shamelessly wasting taxpayers' money on the EU exit bill, acting as always for big business, not ordinary people."
Also - they will surely refer to what that money can do in the NHS!0 -
I'm available on a zero-hours contract basis if they need a bit of help.rkrkrk said:
Not sure Labour HQ are so quick off the mark.Richard_Nabavi said:Just about now, someone in Labour HQ is emailing Labour MPs:
Please note our Agreed Position on the Brexit bill has just changed. The previous position of "This Conservative government is risking Britain's economy by refusing to agree the exit bill with the EU, acting as always for the few, not the many." should no longer be used. The new position is "This Conservative government is shamelessly wasting taxpayers' money on the EU exit bill, acting as always for big business, not ordinary people."
Also - they will surely refer to what that money can do in the NHS!0 -
We Remainers are completely reconciled to leaving the EU. We just want to see Brexit exposed as an utter disaster so that we're vindicated whilst the Leavers and turncoats like May are humiliated. And so far all that is going swimmingly. Ba ha ha ha!Big_G_NorthWales said:
Not a good day for the remainers - we are leavingcalum said:0 -
The EU takes small countries very seriously.....just ask Greece.....or, indeed, Ireland.....rottenborough said:
er, which just leaves Ireland...Big_G_NorthWales said:
Not a good day for the remainers - we are leavingcalum said:0 -
I think that is in eurosFrancisUrquhart said:
The Telegraph understands that the final figure, which is deliberately being left open to interpretation, will be between €45bn and €55bn.calum said:
So lets call it 50bn...so even higher than the 40bn quoted last week.0 -
Well, that's the easy bit of the negotiations done!
Now the government just need to decide what type of deal they actually want, beyond banal platitudes about "free trade" and "deep and special partnerships".0 -
Actually, this is very good news. The sane wing of the Cabinet may have won out after months of haggling with the loons. Now that we have conceded on the money it may mean we will concede on other stuff, too. That means a final trade deal becomes a lot more likely. And that is a whole lot better than a No Deal.Big_G_NorthWales said:
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Seems it is irrelevant - if agreement has happened the narrative turns away from the remainers in a big waynot_on_fire said:
Ignore the facts cos you don’t like the sourceBig_G_NorthWales said:
Arch remaining paper - again remainers fighting their lost campaignScott_P said:0 -
The pound should climb on the back of this.rkrkrk said:As an aside - a Brexit figure agreed in euros leaves us on the hook for one helluva exchange rate risk.... or upside I guess if the pound strengthens.
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Is Boris whistling right now?0
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Having just managed to sign in on a different computer Mr G, can I add my good wishes for you soon to be back to full fighting fitnessBig_G_NorthWales said:
Absolutelyrottenborough said:
and how better to relax and recover than reading PB threads!!Big_G_NorthWales said:
Thanks - just need recovery time but home is bestrkrkrk said:
Yes welcome back. Glad to hear it went wellCyclefree said:
Glad it went well. Best of luck with your recuperation.Big_G_NorthWales said:Having undergone my bi lateral hernia operation yesterday morning and then told I had to walk to my lift in the car park I reflected on my hernia operation in 1973 with a ten day stay in the local hospital.
After coming round I was offered unlimited tea and a piece of toast then told to get dressed on my own and the family could collect me. Everyone was delightful and by the time I had reached my lift I felt quite pleased with myself and very definitely good practice. Very sore with lots of pain killers and no driving for two weeks but I was very grateful to all the medical staff even though I waited 65 weeks for the operation in labour's Wales NHS.
The news today of an amazing two months in the Spring should lift the Country though Republicans and the hard left will not be amused.
Early April Katherine's third child is due, the middle week of April is the Commonwealth Heads of State conference in London (lots of trade deals) and then in mid May a wedding in Windsor Castle with Union Jack's everywhere.
Following on a good trade deal with the states will put the icing on the cake
And nice to have you back.
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So you want an utter disaster to befall our CountryStark_Dawning said:
We Remainers are completely reconciled to leaving the EU. We just want to see Brexit exposed as an utter disaster so that we're vindicated whilst the Leavers and turncoats like May are humiliated. And so far all that is going swimmingly. Ba ha ha ha!Big_G_NorthWales said:
Not a good day for the remainers - we are leavingcalum said:0 -
I'm fine with paying our fair share, and maybe a bit extra to grease the wheelsTheScreamingEagles said:
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rottenborough said:
So cats are the Libertarians of politics? Do what they like, rules don't apply, kill wildlife...foxinsoxuk said:
Definitely vote dog not cat.rottenborough said:
This party is so wrong. If only they had been the 'Larry the Downing Street Cat for PM' then it would romp home.foxinsoxuk said:
They are barking up the wrong tree if they think they will ever get anywhere under FPTP. They will be hounded from office if they ever try.Scott_P said:
They could be in coalition with Brian Cox's Rational Quanta Party.
Politicians need to be loyal, obedient and able to bite intruders, not just make themselves comfortable and kill wildlife. Dogs are servants, cats are masters.
We established this some time ago. Cats are Tories.0 -
Did we lose a war? If not why are we paying reparations?RobD said:
I'm fine with paying our fair share, and maybe a bit extra to grease the wheelsTheScreamingEagles said:0 -
On a serious point. If the settlement is that enormous then I can't see Boris left with any choice other than to resign. His staked his reputation on not paying a penny and the EU having to go whistle. It will expose Boris - as was said about Mussolini - as a vain blustering boaster. Who'd take him seriously again?TheScreamingEagles said:0 -
BREAKING NEWS: UK's highest-paid vice-chancellor who gets £451,000 a year retires from University of Bath after pay row0
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Mr. Eagles, because pro-EU politicians got us into a position whereby withdrawing from the EU is a pain in the arse.
Still, if we were leaving in a decade it'd be even harder.0 -
Everyone is so kind and it reflects so well on PBOldKingCole said:
Having just managed to sign in on a different computer Mr G, can I add my good wishes for you soon to be back to full fighting fitnessBig_G_NorthWales said:
Absolutelyrottenborough said:
and how better to relax and recover than reading PB threads!!Big_G_NorthWales said:
Thanks - just need recovery time but home is bestrkrkrk said:
Yes welcome back. Glad to hear it went wellCyclefree said:
Glad it went well. Best of luck with your recuperation.Big_G_NorthWales said:Having undergone my bi lateral hernia operation yesterday morning and then told I had to walk to my lift in the car park I reflected on my hernia operation in 1973 with a ten day stay in the local hospital.
After coming round I was offered unlimited tea and a piece of toast then told to get dressed on my own and the family could collect me. Everyone was delightful and by the time I had reached my lift I felt quite pleased with myself and very definitely good practice. Very sore with lots of pain killers and no driving for two weeks but I was very grateful to all the medical staff even though I waited 65 weeks for the operation in labour's Wales NHS.
The news today of an amazing two months in the Spring should lift the Country though Republicans and the hard left will not be amused.
Early April Katherine's third child is due, the middle week of April is the Commonwealth Heads of State conference in London (lots of trade deals) and then in mid May a wedding in Windsor Castle with Union Jack's everywhere.
Following on a good trade deal with the states will put the icing on the cake
And nice to have you back.0 -
Are we describing the €55 billion as a facilitation payment, or using more honest language?0
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The same terminology I use for blackmail, ‘Incentive based decision making’SandyRentool said:Are we describing the €55 billion as a facilitation payment, or using more honest language?
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Yes, Telegraph says 45bn to 55bn Euros.
Current rate is 1.12 so it's:
£40bn to £49bn
It was pretty obvious we were offering at least £40bn so this looks in line with expectations.0 -
We should all be relieved as a no deal is a non starter for both sidesSouthamObserver said:
Actually, this is very good news. The sane wing of the Cabinet may have won out after months of haggling with the loons. Now that we have conceded on the money it may mean we will concede on other stuff, too. That means a final trade deal becomes a lot more likely. And that is a whole lot better than a No Deal.Big_G_NorthWales said:0 -
No-one takes him seriously now.Stark_Dawning said:
On a serious point. If the settlement is that enormous then I can't see Boris left with any choice other than to resign. His staked his reputation on not paying a penny and the EU having to go whistle. It will expose Boris - as was said about Mussolini - as a vain blustering boaster. Who'd take him seriously again?TheScreamingEagles said:
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Not really - if we are paying £50 billion and on top of that face years of sclerotic growth and falling living standards, followed by a Canada-style deal, the joys of leaving may begin to seem slightly less compelling for at least some.Big_G_NorthWales said:
Seems it is irrelevant - if agreement has happened the narrative turns away from the remainers in a big waynot_on_fire said:
Ignore the facts cos you don’t like the sourceBig_G_NorthWales said:
Arch remaining paper - again remainers fighting their lost campaignScott_P said:
However, that is by the by, the good news is that the government has seen sense and will have to face down its right flank. Having made the decision to do that, it does open up the possibility of other concessions and the opportunity to get a better Brexit than the worse case scenario. Everyone should welcome that.
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So from we owe them nothing to €50 billion. All for a trade deal. Agreed even before the December 4th deadline.
What would the EU negotiators interpret from this ?
UK wants a trade deal DESPERATELY.0 -
I agree with that - just hope the opposition doesn't play stupid on itSouthamObserver said:
Not really - if we are paying £50 billion and on top of that face years of sclerotic growth and falling living standards, followed by a Canada-style deal, the joys of leaving may begin to seem slightly less compelling for at least some.Big_G_NorthWales said:
Seems it is irrelevant - if agreement has happened the narrative turns away from the remainers in a big waynot_on_fire said:
Ignore the facts cos you don’t like the sourceBig_G_NorthWales said:
Arch remaining paper - again remainers fighting their lost campaignScott_P said:
However, that is by the by, the good news is that the government has seen sense and will have to face down its right flank. Having made the decision to do that, it does open up the possibility of other concessions and the opportunity to get a better Brexit than the worse case scenario. Everyone should welcome that.0 -
Something tells me tonight is going to be a bad night to have date night.0
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This followed by letting NI be in the customs union or better still, the UK itself remain in the customs union would be perfect.SouthamObserver said:
Not really - if we are paying £50 billion and on top of that face years of sclerotic growth and falling living standards, followed by a Canada-style deal, the joys of leaving may begin to seem slightly less compelling for at least some.Big_G_NorthWales said:
Seems it is irrelevant - if agreement has happened the narrative turns away from the remainers in a big waynot_on_fire said:
Ignore the facts cos you don’t like the sourceBig_G_NorthWales said:
Arch remaining paper - again remainers fighting their lost campaignScott_P said:
However, that is by the by, the good news is that the government has seen sense and will have to face down its right flank. Having made the decision to do that, it does open up the possibility of other concessions and the opportunity to get a better Brexit than the worse case scenario. Everyone should welcome that.
Of course, the question would arise : why are we paying 50bn ?0 -
Evening all
Symbolic moments - for me, no.1 will always be Neil Armstrong and the Moon landing in 1969 with no.2 the Fall of the Berlin Wall twenty years later and no.3 the second plane hitting the WTC in NYC on 11/9/01.
All three changed the world fundamentally.0 -
And so do theysurbiton said:So from we owe them nothing to €50 billion. All for a trade deal. Agreed even before the December 4th deadline.
What would the EU negotiators interpret from this ?
UK wants a trade deal DESPERATELY.
And made my 10,000 posts0 -
Excellent news - and yes, take it easy. We will all try to be nice for 4 weeks before our evil natures resurfaceBig_G_NorthWales said:
Yes thank you but need to be kind to myself for a few weeksMorris_Dancer said:Welcome back, Mr. NorthWales. Glad it went well.
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On the financial deal: I. Told. You. So. These negotiations will have numerous scary moments. And breakdowsn. And ultimatums. And then they'll work out. Whether they work out well, and what the electorate makes of them, who knows?0
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No.4 - Britain pays £50 billion not to let foreigners in.stodge said:Evening all
Symbolic moments - for me, no.1 will always be Neil Armstrong and the Moon landing in 1969 with no.2 the Fall of the Berlin Wall twenty years later and no.3 the second plane hitting the WTC in NYC on 11/9/01.
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The EU side did not seem to be too worried!Big_G_NorthWales said:
We should all be relieved as a no deal is a non starter for both sidesSouthamObserver said:
Actually, this is very good news. The sane wing of the Cabinet may have won out after months of haggling with the loons. Now that we have conceded on the money it may mean we will concede on other stuff, too. That means a final trade deal becomes a lot more likely. And that is a whole lot better than a No Deal.Big_G_NorthWales said:0
