It was so transparently political - I struggle to believe that he really sits around listening to Jerusalem, Je ne regrete rien or The Ballard of Joe Hill.
No, but you're not Ed and that he would have 'political' songs does not strike me as odd.....At least he chose "Je ne regrette rien" rather than 'My Way'.....
Je ne regrete rien, indelibly linked with an allegedly uncaring Tory Chancellor presiding over a recovery after a challenging recession.
But, sorry, he is a truthful man, and it is not political at all: just coincidentally one of his favourite pieces of music.
Argus by Wishbone Ash.? Saucerful of Secrets. Pink Floyd? Stone Roses, Stone Roses? More songs about buildings and food, Talking Heads? Back in Black, Amy Winehouse?
Or even Candy Apple Grey by Husker du?
It would all depend on my mood on the day, few are consistent in these things.
"When I put in a call to Paul Weller, he mentions Cameron's alleged fondness for his old songs, and expresses a fatalistic puzzlement. "It's like, which bit didn't he get?" he says. "It's strange, but the whole nature of politics has shifted, hasn't it? The stark contrasts of Thatcherism and socialism have gone: you can't really tell who's Brown or Cameron or anyone else. "
I know what you mean. It is all very time consuming, and does take me away from seeing patients, but if we come to better patterns of shared working with primary care it will be time well spent.
I did wonder if it was just our local teams collabarating well; interesting to hear a similar experience from the other side of the table and elsewhere.
I have to admit to being rather pleasantly surprised by how well it is working at present. The constructive approach to our A/E and cancellations problems is what we have needed for over a decade.
Dr Sox, I think you may well have just given tim brain freeze. He has pontificated for so long on the Lansley bill, that despite Avery giving him a really good insight, he was apparently blind to its many good points.
That said, it is taking many senior Primary Care workers (doctors, managers, nurses, pharmacists ...) away from their day job for far too long. We now have to square the circle of giving greater access to the patients - which uses a lot of time - with being part of the commissioning process - which uses a lot of time. I would (if really pushed) be able to work in evenings and at weekends to provide care to patients 24/7/52 but I would have to give up some of the work that goes on during the rest of the working week. Which bit would the public be happy for me to stop? The clinics or the commissioning work?
And I completely agree about the good, consensual, grown up approach to work between Primary and Secondary care that is happening in my area too
think "it" always worked when the health professionals worked together. It was when one group or another tried to be dominant, or when management tried to go beyond their brief that things went wrong.
It was so transparently political - I struggle to believe that he really sits around listening to Jerusalem, Je ne regrete rien or The Ballard of Joe Hill.
No, but you're not Ed and that he would have 'political' songs does not strike me as odd.....At least he chose "Je ne regrette rien" rather than 'My Way'.....
Je ne regrete rien, indelibly linked with an allegedly uncaring Tory Chancellor presiding over a recovery after a challenging recession.
In the minds of a fraction of political anoraks (I'd forgotten - all I remember was 'singing in the bath) who are in turn a tiny fraction of the population.
Personally I am more inclined to believe Ed's explanation, that its a recording from his Dad's record collection which he remembers listening to as a child and he's trying to get his kids to learn French....
This attitude by artists (whether music or literature) amuses me. Once you write something, whether two-note ditty or Booker Prize winner, it is no longer yours. You may have written it with some message in mind, but readers may have a very different interpretation of it. As long as all interpretations do not go against the facts in the piece, they are equally accurate.
It's even more complex with music - you can love the tune or cadence without particularly liking the words, or even liking them in an ironic way. They can even trigger memories, either from things mentioned in the lyrics, or they can take you back to pleasant events when you first heard them.
The idea that artists somehow own the interpretation of their work - and can even declare who should or should not enjoy it - is rather funny.
The perfect song to encapsulate this attitude: or least from my interpretation. ;-)
To a point you are right, but when you maker a song expressly against something, and a person that was one of the targets says its one of their favourite tunes, surely you are allowed to raise an eyebrow, or highlight their odd thinking.
Maybe PW Botha's favourite song was "Free Nelson Mandela"?
It was so transparently political - I struggle to believe that he really sits around listening to Jerusalem, Je ne regrete rien or The Ballard of Joe Hill.
No, but you're not Ed and that he would have 'political' songs does not strike me as odd.....At least he chose "Je ne regrette rien" rather than 'My Way'.....
Je ne regrete rien, indelibly linked with an allegedly uncaring Tory Chancellor presiding over a recovery after a challenging recession.
In the minds of a fraction of political anoraks (I'd forgotten - all I remember was 'singing in the bath) who are in turn a tiny fraction of the population.
Personally I am more inclined to believe Ed's explanation, that its a recording from his Dad's record collection which he remembers listening to as a child and he's trying to get his kids to learn French....
I'm more cynical than you. It's aimed at activists and the media, not normal folk
Argus by Wishbone Ash.? Saucerful of Secrets. Pink Floyd? Stone Roses, Stone Roses? More songs about buildings and food, Talking Heads? Back in Black, Amy Winehouse?
Or even Candy Apple Grey by Husker du?
It would all depend on my mood on the day, few are consistent in these things.
"When I put in a call to Paul Weller, he mentions Cameron's alleged fondness for his old songs, and expresses a fatalistic puzzlement. "It's like, which bit didn't he get?" he says. "It's strange, but the whole nature of politics has shifted, hasn't it? The stark contrasts of Thatcherism and socialism have gone: you can't really tell who's Brown or Cameron or anyone else. "
This attitude by artists (whether music or literature) amuses me. Once you write something, whether two-note ditty or Booker Prize winner, it is no longer yours. You may have written it with some message in mind, but readers may have a very different interpretation of it. As long as all interpretations do not go against the facts in the piece, they are equally accurate.
It's even more complex with music - you can love the tune or cadence without particularly liking the words, or even liking them in an ironic way. They can even trigger memories, either from things mentioned in the lyrics, or they can take you back to pleasant events when you first heard them.
The idea that artists somehow own the interpretation of their work - and can even declare who should or should not enjoy it - is rather funny.
The perfect song to encapsulate this attitude: or least from my interpretation. ;-)
To a point you are right, but when you maker a song expressly against something, and a person that was one of the targets says its one of their favourite tunes, surely you are allowed to raise an eyebrow, or highlight their odd thinking.
Maybe PW Botha's favourite song was "Free Nelson Mandela"?
I doubt Botha liked ska, yet alone that particular song. ;-)
But on your main point: it's the writer's fault for not being explicit. You could have a song called "No Tories can listen to this song. Ever, on pain of death" and you might get Tories liking it because it had a funky tune, or because it amuses them.
Or the song may take them back to an event when they heard it.
The Queen is Dead wouldn't make my shortlist even if restriced to Albums by the Smiths.
I went to see Johnny Marr last summer. A great gig and quite a bit of oldies from the Smiths. Johnny is a better singer than Morrissey.
It reminds me of John Lennons reply when asked if Ringo was the best drummer in the world " I'm not sure if he is even the best drummer in the Beatles..."
Argus by Wishbone Ash.? Saucerful of Secrets. Pink Floyd? Stone Roses, Stone Roses? More songs about buildings and food, Talking Heads? Back in Black, Amy Winehouse?
Or even Candy Apple Grey by Husker du?
It would all depend on my mood on the day, few are consistent in these things.
"When I put in a call to Paul Weller, he mentions Cameron's alleged fondness for his old songs, and expresses a fatalistic puzzlement. "It's like, which bit didn't he get?" he says. "It's strange, but the whole nature of politics has shifted, hasn't it? The stark contrasts of Thatcherism and socialism have gone: you can't really tell who's Brown or Cameron or anyone else. "
This attitude by artists (whether music or literature) amuses me. Once you write something, whether two-note ditty or Booker Prize winner, it is no longer yours. You may have written it with some message in mind, but readers may have a very different interpretation of it. As long as all interpretations do not go against the facts in the piece, they are equally accurate.
It's even more complex with music - you can love the tune or cadence without particularly liking the words, or even liking them in an ironic way. They can even trigger memories, either from things mentioned in the lyrics, or they can take you back to pleasant events when you first heard them.
The idea that artists somehow own the interpretation of their work - and can even declare who should or should not enjoy it - is rather funny.
The perfect song to encapsulate this attitude: or least from my interpretation. ;-)
To a point you are right, but when you maker a song expressly against something, and a person that was one of the targets says its one of their favourite tunes, surely you are allowed to raise an eyebrow, or highlight their odd thinking.
Maybe PW Botha's favourite song was "Free Nelson Mandela"?
I doubt Botha liked ska, yet alone that particular song. ;-)
But on your main point: it's the writer's fault for not being explicit. You could have a song called "No Tories can listen to this song. Ever, on pain of death" and you might get Tories liking it because it had a funky tune, or because it amuses them.
Or the song may take them back to an event when they heard it.
It's Weller being a precious tit.
Have to agree to disagree.
Weller was asked his opinion on Cameron liking Eton Rifles and said "what part of it didn't he get?". Fair enough I reckon
I like a lot of psychedelia. A lot of my friends at school were quite druggy, but I was off to med school and so didnt indulge. A few of them became real casualties, one dying of an overdose, another with HIV. I just liked the music scene.
Does Labour have any links to Barclays or HSBC/FD? We all know about their links to NR, BoS (and culling of Lloyds), RBS and the Co-Op. We also know how that all turned out...!
Tottenham midfielder Sandro has just vomited on the pitch. He's not looking great although he seems to have poured a load of water on his face to see if that'll help.
This attitude by artists (whether music or literature) amuses me. Once you write something, whether two-note ditty or Booker Prize winner, it is no longer yours. You may have written it with some message in mind, but readers may have a very different interpretation of it. As long as all interpretations do not go against the facts in the piece, they are equally accurate.
It's even more complex with music - you can love the tune or cadence without particularly liking the words, or even liking them in an ironic way. They can even trigger memories, either from things mentioned in the lyrics, or they can take you back to pleasant events when you first heard them.
The idea that artists somehow own the interpretation of their work - and can even declare who should or should not enjoy it - is rather funny.
The perfect song to encapsulate this attitude: or least from my interpretation. ;-)
To a point you are right, but when you maker a song expressly against something, and a person that was one of the targets says its one of their favourite tunes, surely you are allowed to raise an eyebrow, or highlight their odd thinking.
Maybe PW Botha's favourite song was "Free Nelson Mandela"?
I doubt Botha liked ska, yet alone that particular song. ;-)
But on your main point: it's the writer's fault for not being explicit. You could have a song called "No Tories can listen to this song. Ever, on pain of death" and you might get Tories liking it because it had a funky tune, or because it amuses them.
Or the song may take them back to an event when they heard it.
It's Weller being a precious tit.
Have to agree to disagree.
Weller was asked his opinion on Cameron liking Eton Rifles and said "what part of it didn't he get?". Fair enough I reckon
Well, no. It's Weller being big-headed enough to assume he owns the interpretation of his work. In other words, that there is only one possible interpretation to 'get'.
The Queen is Dead wouldn't make my shortlist even if restriced to Albums by the Smiths.
I went to see Johnny Marr last summer. A great gig and quite a bit of oldies from the Smiths. Johnny is a better singer than Morrissey.
It reminds me of John Lennons reply when asked if Ringo was the best drummer in the world " I'm not sure if he is even the best drummer in the Beatles..."
Weller was asked his opinion on Cameron liking Eton Rifles and said "what part of it didn't he get?". Fair enough I reckon
I also think it's fair enough, but I know I'm biased because lyrics in songs are particularly important for me. I will just whistle along to a tune I like but my appreciation of a song really changes (up or down!) once I know the lyrics. It reminds me of happy couples requesting 'The One I Love' by REM to be played on the radio for their loved one:
'This one goes out to the one I love This one goes out to the one I've left behind A simple prop to occupy my time This one goes out to the one I love.'
I saw Johnny Marr at Leeds festival, with a 45 minute set. Perhaps a longer set would have exceeded his material. He finished with a great version of "I fought the Law".
Nick Cave has never really grabbed hold of me, but maybe I will give that one a try.
The Queen is Dead wouldn't make my shortlist even if restriced to Albums by the Smiths.
I went to see Johnny Marr last summer. A great gig and quite a bit of oldies from the Smiths. Johnny is a better singer than Morrissey.
It reminds me of John Lennons reply when asked if Ringo was the best drummer in the world " I'm not sure if he is even the best drummer in the Beatles..."
Argus by Wishbone Ash.? Saucerful of Secrets. Pink Floyd? Stone Roses, Stone Roses? More songs about buildings and food, Talking Heads? Back in Black, Amy Winehouse?
Or even Candy Apple Grey by Husker du?
It would all depend on my mood on the day, few are consistent in these things.
"When I put in a call to Paul Weller, he mentions Cameron's alleged fondness for his old songs, and expresses a fatalistic puzzlement. "It's like, which bit didn't he get?" he says. "It's strange, but the whole nature of politics.
This attitude by artists (whether music or literature) amuses me. Once you write something, whether two-note ditty or Booker Prize winner, it is no longer yours. You may have written it with some message in mind, but readers may have a very different interpretation of it. As long as all interpretations do not go against the facts in the piece, they are equally accurate.
It's even more complex with music - you can love the tune or cadence without particularly liking the words, or even liking them in an ironic way. They can even trigger memories, either from things mentioned in the lyrics, or they can take you back to pleasant events when you first heard them.
The idea that artists somehow own the interpretation of their work - and can even declare who should or should not enjoy it - is rather funny.
The perfect song to encapsulate this attitude: or least from my interpretation. ;-)
To a point you are right, but when you maker a song expressly against something, and a person that was one of the targets says its one of their favourite tunes, surely you are allowed to raise an eyebrow, or highlight their odd thinking.
Maybe PW Botha's favourite song was "Free Nelson Mandela"?
I doubt Botha liked ska, yet alone that particular song. ;-)
But on your main point: it's the writer's fault for not being explicit. You could have a song called "No Tories can listen to this song. Ever, on pain of death" and you might get Tories liking it because it had a funky tune, or because it amuses them.
Or the song may take them back to an event when they heard it.
It's Weller being a precious tit.
Have to agree to disagree.
Weller was asked his opinion on Cameron liking Eton Rifles and said "what part of it didn't he get?". Fair enough I reckon
Well, no. It's Weller being big-headed enough to assume he owns the interpretation of his work. In other words, that there is only one possible interpretation to 'get'.
Weller was asked his opinion on Cameron liking Eton Rifles and said "what part of it didn't he get?". Fair enough I reckon
I also think it's fair enough, but I know I'm biased because lyrics in songs are particularly important for me. I will just whistle along to a tune I like but my appreciation of a song really changes (up or down!) once I know the lyrics. It reminds me of happy couples requesting 'The One I Love' by REM to be played on the radio for their loved one:
'This one goes out to the one I love This one goes out to the one I've left behind A simple prop to occupy my time This one goes out to the one I love.'
To a point you are right, but when you maker a song expressly against something, and a person that was one of the targets says its one of their favourite tunes, surely you are allowed to raise an eyebrow, or highlight their odd thinking.
Maybe PW Botha's favourite song was "Free Nelson Mandela"?
I doubt Botha liked ska, yet alone that particular song. ;-)
But on your main point: it's the writer's fault for not being explicit. You could have a song called "No Tories can listen to this song. Ever, on pain of death" and you might get Tories liking it because it had a funky tune, or because it amuses them.
Or the song may take them back to an event when they heard it.
It's Weller being a precious tit.
Have to agree to disagree.
Weller was asked his opinion on Cameron liking Eton Rifles and said "what part of it didn't he get?". Fair enough I reckon
Well, no. It's Weller being big-headed enough to assume he owns the interpretation of his work. In other words, that there is only one possible interpretation to 'get'.
What it does show is that Milliband has absolutely no interest in music at all. Its mostly music his parents would have liked, or music put on at a school disco. He doesn't seem interested in the enjoyment aspect of music, only the politics of the work. He only added the A-Ha song to try and lighten it up a bit.
I'm tiring of his constant references to his father, though. He uses "my Dad" like Cameron uses "as a father". Its a little thing, but starting to annoy me.
Lots of children idolise their fathers, no problem there.
I feel that I must stick up for ASFoS! It is the best of their period with Syd in the band, and revolutionary for 68. For the next decade the rest of the band were missing his showmanship and inventiveness, hence Dark Side of the Moon and Wish You Were Here.
Like a lot of music, it sparks memories for me, and perhaps I feel a certain nostalgia for the period before drug casualties mounted. It all seemed such good mind expanding fun at the time.
Floyd did some other great stuff. I listen to Meddle, Atom Heart Mother, Obscured by Clouds fairly often as well as DSOTM or WYWH. I got a bit fed up after Animals, a bit to much winge-ing by Roger Waters after that.
Argus by Wishbone Ash.? Saucerful of Secrets. Pink Floyd? Stone Roses, Stone Roses? More songs about buildings and food, Talking Heads? Back in Black, Amy Winehouse?
Or even Candy Apple Grey by Husker du?
It would all depend on my mood on the day, few are consistent in these things.
"When I put in a call to Paul Weller, he mentions Cameron's alleged fondness for his old songs, and expresses a fatalistic puzzlement. "It's like, which bit didn't he get?" he says. "It's strange, but the whole nature of politics has shifted, hasn't it? The stark contrasts of Thatcherism and socialism have gone: you can't really tell who's Brown or Cameron or anyone else. "
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But, sorry, he is a truthful man, and it is not political at all: just coincidentally one of his favourite pieces of music.
Argus by Wishbone Ash.?
Saucerful of Secrets. Pink Floyd?
Stone Roses, Stone Roses?
More songs about buildings and food, Talking Heads?
Back in Black, Amy Winehouse?
Or even Candy Apple Grey by Husker du?
It would all depend on my mood on the day, few are consistent in these things.
When it comes to insults and puntahs there is only one song to exemplify the incompetence of the sage-and-onion that resides in Sussex:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OYJgOt0RQfQ
:wednesday-nights-pi5h-up-was-fifty-percent-funded-by-marque-senile-and-his-Greece-growth-predictions(2013);mupper-watch:
14 seconds....
Personally I am more inclined to believe Ed's explanation, that its a recording from his Dad's record collection which he remembers listening to as a child and he's trying to get his kids to learn French....
Maybe PW Botha's favourite song was "Free Nelson Mandela"?
But on your main point: it's the writer's fault for not being explicit. You could have a song called "No Tories can listen to this song. Ever, on pain of death" and you might get Tories liking it because it had a funky tune, or because it amuses them.
Or the song may take them back to an event when they heard it.
It's Weller being a precious tit.
I went to see Johnny Marr last summer. A great gig and quite a bit of oldies from the Smiths. Johnny is a better singer than Morrissey.
It reminds me of John Lennons reply when asked if Ringo was the best drummer in the world " I'm not sure if he is even the best drummer in the Beatles..."
Now "Wish You Were Here" would be a better choice. [aSFoS would be at the level of 'A Momentary Lapse of Reason'; and rightly so....]
Weller was asked his opinion on Cameron liking Eton Rifles and said "what part of it didn't he get?". Fair enough I reckon
Does Labour have any links to Barclays or HSBC/FD? We all know about their links to NR, BoS (and culling of Lloyds), RBS and the Co-Op. We also know how that all turned out...!
Tottenham midfielder Sandro has just vomited on the pitch. He's not looking great although he seems to have poured a load of water on his face to see if that'll help.
As I said, Weller's being a precious tit.
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2013/nov/23/coop-bank-tragedy-never-need-mutuals-more
'This one goes out to the one I love
This one goes out to the one I've left behind
A simple prop to occupy my time
This one goes out to the one I love.'
Mmm, thanks sweetie!
Nick Cave has never really grabbed hold of me, but maybe I will give that one a try.
Here's one.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gudrun_Burwitz
Gudrun Burwitz (nee Himmler)
WTF is 'Stramash'? Is it a cyber-natism or trolling...?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-rj1SFtxRTg
Like a lot of music, it sparks memories for me, and perhaps I feel a certain nostalgia for the period before drug casualties mounted. It all seemed such good mind expanding fun at the time.
Floyd did some other great stuff. I listen to Meddle, Atom Heart Mother, Obscured by Clouds fairly often as well as DSOTM or WYWH. I got a bit fed up after Animals, a bit to much winge-ing by Roger Waters after that.