Alanbrooke said:

German authorities accused of colluding with Porsche to hide diesel emisions


http://www.faz.net/aktuell/wirtschaft/diesel-affaere/diesel-affaere-hat-das-kraftfahrtbundesamt-seine-berichte-geschoent-15129744.html

Alanbrooke said:

SouthamObserver said:

Alanbrooke said:

SouthamObserver said:

Alanbrooke said:

DavidL said:

I think the word "natural" is ambiguous in this context. If you interpret it as "as nature intended " then you may take the view that the purpose of sex is the passing on of genes and that gay sex does not accord with that. If it is interpreted as "something I am perfectly ok with" that may give a different answer.

Personally I would answer affirmatively to both since sex is clearly intended to be recreational as well as procreative.

I dont really care about gays having sex per se

but I just wish remainers would stop doing it on my front lawn every evening

At least we are out and proud. People like James Dyson and Tim Martin preach the harsh Brexit gospel, but not for people like them. Of course.

http://www.fwi.co.uk/news/brexiteer-dyson-warns-government-not-cut-farm-subsidies.htm

http://www.devonlive.com/tim/story-29207761-detail/story.html

Cameron and Cooper preach the gospel of remain, not for them stagnant wages and people living 15 to a room

At what point post-Brexit will wages start to steam ahead, do you reckon? Which sectors will see the biggest rises?

So your remainy creed already accepts low wages and the no hope economy ?

What ever happened to the high skill high wage economy Blair proclaimed ?

CarlottaVance said:

Alanbrooke said:

German authorities accused of colluding with Porsche to hide diesel emisions


http://www.faz.net/aktuell/wirtschaft/diesel-affaere/diesel-affaere-hat-das-kraftfahrtbundesamt-seine-berichte-geschoent-15129744.html

Just as well America hasn't got a protectionist President perusing pretexts......

DavidL said:

GeoffM said:

Extreme candidates for the House of Representatives do worse than moderates because they mobilize the opposing party to turn out to vote, according to new research from Andrew Hall and Daniel Thompson of Stanford University.

Political scientists and campaign experts have been divided for decades about whether candidates are successful when they win over swing voters — those who aren’t loyal to any party — or when they encourage members of their own party to show up at the polls. The research suggests that when it comes to ideologically extreme candidates, the deciding factor might be the other party’s turnout.

washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2017/07/29/extreme-candidates-lose-because-they-boost-the-other-partys-turnout-research-finds/

That seems to really miss the point though. As with Corbyn if the extreme candidate appeals to the subset who select the candidate/leader then they are the ones who will be standing rather than the moderates. When you have lots of safe seats, either in the US or here, lots of those extreme candidates will then be elected whatever the moderates think about them.

The gerrymandering of Congress has undoubtedly increased extremism on both sides of the aisle and made co-operation positively dangerous to a Congressman's political future.

SouthamObserver said:

DavidL said:

GeoffM said:

Extreme candidates for the House of Representatives do worse than moderates because they mobilize the opposing party to turn out to vote, according to new research from Andrew Hall and Daniel Thompson of Stanford University.

Political scientists and campaign experts have been divided for decades about whether candidates are successful when they win over swing voters — those who aren’t loyal to any party — or when they encourage members of their own party to show up at the polls. The research suggests that when it comes to ideologically extreme candidates, the deciding factor might be the other party’s turnout.

washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2017/07/29/extreme-candidates-lose-because-they-boost-the-other-partys-turnout-research-finds/

That seems to really miss the point though. As with Corbyn if the extreme candidate appeals to the subset who select the candidate/leader then they are the ones who will be standing rather than the moderates. When you have lots of safe seats, either in the US or here, lots of those extreme candidates will then be elected whatever the moderates think about them.

The gerrymandering of Congress has undoubtedly increased extremism on both sides of the aisle and made co-operation positively dangerous to a Congressman's political future.

Extremists often also depend on the other option being abysmal. See our election result, for example. Corbyn and the Labour left generally are confusing anti-Tory votes - created by May's general awfulness and her hardline, no surrender Brexit rhetoric - with pro-Socialist ones. This should give the Tories some hope for next time around. If they can move away from extremism themselves, of course.