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  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 123,759
    edited November 2013
    Why can I see PB Welsh and Scottish folk wanting to tar and feather me for links 25 and 26?

    ::Innocent face::
  • MikeKMikeK Posts: 9,053
    We can see why Cleggover is pissing his pants; no cushy job with the EU nomenclature if UKIP succeed in 2014 in putting a big dent in his EU dream.

    And if UKIP gain seats in parliament that means that the Lib/dems are dead as a party.
  • CarolaCarola Posts: 1,805
    This echoes what Charles was saying about his neck of the London woods:

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/wp/2013/11/18/why-the-rise-of-the-ultra-rich-in-london-is-bad-for-the-rest-of-britain/
  • NeilNeil Posts: 7,983
    MikeK said:


    And if UKIP gain seats in parliament that means that the Lib/dems are dead as a party.

    If that's all Clegg has to worry about he can afford to relax a fair bit.
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 123,759
    edited November 2013
    @Neil, check out the Irish part of link 26.

    Should bring back happy memories for you, to do with the night you gave me a load of abuse on here.
  • NeilNeil Posts: 7,983
    @TSE

    I think the vast majority of Irish fans who remember them all would agree that this is Ireland's most memorable moment in the Rugby World Cup:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OVLJmoBbRRg

    Made all the more perfect by Australia going right back down the pitch to score and win by a point.
  • Ishmael_XIshmael_X Posts: 3,664
    The stadium looking like a chump gag would be better if the stadium did in fact resemble a chump. It doesn't, though.
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 123,759
    Neil, that link from 1991 would have been cruel, plus I didn't make money on that match like I did on the 2011 match.
  • JohnLilburneJohnLilburne Posts: 7,177
    tim said:

    IDS lying isn't a news story is it?

    As it happens, I'm no more inclined to believe an unsupported assertion by the New Statesman than I am to believe an unsupported assertion by Ian Duncan Smith.

  • IOSIOS Posts: 1,450
    The David Skelton piece was excellent. Labour would be stuffed if they were facing a team of working class Tories advancing those arguments.
  • compouter1compouter1 Posts: 642
    IOS said:

    The David Skelton piece was excellent. Labour would be stuffed if they were facing a team of working class Tories advancing those arguments.

    Stuffed is a strong word, but it would make it interesting. It would never happen though, as we all know. Realistically, would the people who fund their party still be as forthright in coughing up if it wasn't the people they know and trust running the party.
  • nigel4englandnigel4england Posts: 4,800
    compouter1 said:

    IOS said:

    The David Skelton piece was excellent. Labour would be stuffed if they were facing a team of working class Tories advancing those arguments.

    Stuffed is a strong word, but it would make it interesting. It would never happen though, as we all know. Realistically, would the people who fund their party still be as forthright in coughing up if it wasn't the people they know and trust running the party.
    Who trusts Cameron?
  • AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 29,395
    edited November 2013
    Top 50 targets, candidates selected:

    Lab: 45 (46 if Corby included)
    Con: 33
    Lib Dem: 20


    Still to select:

    Lab: Bradford East, Brent Central, Kingswood, Keighley.

    Con: Great Grimsby, B'ham Edgbaston, Wakefield, Plymouth Moor View, Gedling, Eltham, Walsall South, Exeter, Blackpool South, Southampton Test, Luton South, Bridgend, Dagenham&Rainham, Penistone&Stocksbridge, Stalybridge&Hyde, Bury South, Scunthorpe.
  • NeilNeil Posts: 7,983
    compouter1 said:

    Realistically, would the people who fund their party still be as forthright in coughing up if it wasn't the people they know and trust running the party.

    Donors dont get a vote in Conservative party leadership elections. In Labour party leadership elections some of the biggest donors can have a very significant impact, possibly even swaying the result you could say.
  • AndreaParma_82AndreaParma_82 Posts: 4,714
    NEC decided for open shortlist in Leeds East.
  • CarolaCarola Posts: 1,805
    edited November 2013
    '"I've known Ed 20 years and I don't know if he likes the pub or not," says @edballsmp of @Ed_Miliband on #itvagenda. Ouch.' newtondunn

    '...and @edballsmp adds, just to reinforce that he's a bloke though if Ed isn't: "I was last in the pub yesterday".'

    'On tonights #TheAgenda @edballsmp tells @tombradby about Ed Miliband. "The diff between Tony Blair & Gordon Brown is I don't want Ed's job."' tombradbyRT
  • compouter1compouter1 Posts: 642
    nigel4england said:

    compouter1 said:

    IOS said:

    The David Skelton piece was excellent. Labour would be stuffed if they were facing a team of working class Tories advancing those arguments.

    Stuffed is a strong word, but it would make it interesting. It would never happen though, as we all know. Realistically, would the people who fund their party still be as forthright in coughing up if it wasn't the people they know and trust running the party.
    Who trusts Cameron?
    The people who are pumping millions into the party he leads?
  • Scott_PScott_P Posts: 51,453
    @tnewtondunn: "I've known Ed 20 years and I don't know if he likes the pub or not," says @edballsmp of @Ed_Miliband on #itvagenda. Ouch.

    tnewtondunn: ...and @edballsmp adds, just to reinforce that he's a bloke though if Ed isn't: "I was last in the pub yesterday". #itvagenda
  • compouter1compouter1 Posts: 642
    Neil said:

    compouter1 said:

    Realistically, would the people who fund their party still be as forthright in coughing up if it wasn't the people they know and trust running the party.

    Donors dont get a vote in Conservative party leadership elections. In Labour party leadership elections some of the biggest donors can have a very significant impact, possibly even swaying the result you could say.
    Taking their funding comes from a small section of society and their leadership comes from the very same section of society....do you get my point?
  • NeilNeil Posts: 7,983
    Carola said:

    '"I've known Ed 20 years and I don't know if he likes the pub or not," says @edballsmp of @Ed_Miliband on #itvagenda. Ouch.' newtondunn

    '...and @edballsmp adds, just to reinforce that he's a bloke though if Ed isn't: "I was last in the pub yesterday".'

    'On tonights #TheAgenda @edballsmp tells @tombradby about Ed Miliband. "The diff between Tony Blair & Gordon Brown is I don't want Ed's job."' tombradbyRT

    What is "the pub" he is talking about? I'd like to avoid it in case I accidentally ran into Ed Balls.
  • NeilNeil Posts: 7,983
    compouter1 said:

    Neil said:

    compouter1 said:

    Realistically, would the people who fund their party still be as forthright in coughing up if it wasn't the people they know and trust running the party.

    Donors dont get a vote in Conservative party leadership elections. In Labour party leadership elections some of the biggest donors can have a very significant impact, possibly even swaying the result you could say.
    Taking their funding comes from a small section of society and their leadership comes from the very same section of society....do you get my point?
    I dont think you could ever be accused of subtlety.
  • compouter1compouter1 Posts: 642
    Neil said:

    compouter1 said:

    Neil said:

    compouter1 said:

    Realistically, would the people who fund their party still be as forthright in coughing up if it wasn't the people they know and trust running the party.

    Donors dont get a vote in Conservative party leadership elections. In Labour party leadership elections some of the biggest donors can have a very significant impact, possibly even swaying the result you could say.
    Taking their funding comes from a small section of society and their leadership comes from the very same section of society....do you get my point?
    I dont think you could ever be accused of subtlety.
    Well that is one thing we can agree on.
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 123,759
    Neil said:

    Carola said:

    '"I've known Ed 20 years and I don't know if he likes the pub or not," says @edballsmp of @Ed_Miliband on #itvagenda. Ouch.' newtondunn

    '...and @edballsmp adds, just to reinforce that he's a bloke though if Ed isn't: "I was last in the pub yesterday".'

    'On tonights #TheAgenda @edballsmp tells @tombradby about Ed Miliband. "The diff between Tony Blair & Gordon Brown is I don't want Ed's job."' tombradbyRT

    What is "the pub" he is talking about? I'd like to avoid it in case I accidentally ran into Ed Balls.
    The Rose Tavern pub, in Norwich

    http://www.eveningnews24.co.uk/news/shadow_chancellor_ed_balls_backs_norwich_pub_campaign_1_867836
  • nigel4englandnigel4england Posts: 4,800
    tim said:

    David Skelton is my favourite Tory.
    Maajid Nawaz is my favourite Lib Dem.

    For the Tories to become electable they should remove the Cameron clique and replace South East NIMBY's with hardworking immigrants as a detox.

    Give the NIMBY's a few quid to move to Spain, start again.

    Who is your favourite Kipper?
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 123,759
    If anyone needs lessons in subtly, I'm your man.

    As my subtle pop music references into nighthawks shows.
  • CarolaCarola Posts: 1,805
    Neil said:

    Carola said:

    '"I've known Ed 20 years and I don't know if he likes the pub or not," says @edballsmp of @Ed_Miliband on #itvagenda. Ouch.' newtondunn

    '...and @edballsmp adds, just to reinforce that he's a bloke though if Ed isn't: "I was last in the pub yesterday".'

    'On tonights #TheAgenda @edballsmp tells @tombradby about Ed Miliband. "The diff between Tony Blair & Gordon Brown is I don't want Ed's job."' tombradbyRT

    What is "the pub" he is talking about? I'd like to avoid it in case I accidentally ran into Ed Balls.
    Can't see him sipping cocktails tbh ;)
  • CarolaCarola Posts: 1,805
    TheScreamingEagles said:

    If anyone needs lessons in subtly, I'm your man.

    As my subtle pop music references into nighthawks shows.

    The Mighty Rooks match poster for Wednesday:

    Two HUGE events next week: 50th anniversary of Dr Who and Lewes v Cray Wanderers. Uh oh, here comes a poster... pic.twitter.com/QZgx4wi6Nh
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 123,759
    Carola said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    If anyone needs lessons in subtly, I'm your man.

    As my subtle pop music references into nighthawks shows.

    The Mighty Rooks match poster for Wednesday:

    Two HUGE events next week: 50th anniversary of Dr Who and Lewes v Cray Wanderers. Uh oh, here comes a poster... pic.twitter.com/QZgx4wi6Nh
    Wednesday night is hectic for me.

    This week is geek week,

    Catching Fire out Wednesday night and Doctor Who at the cinema on Saturday.
  • nigel4englandnigel4england Posts: 4,800
    Just read point six, funniest thing I've read for a long time.

  • AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 29,395
    tim said:

    David Skelton is my favourite Tory.
    Maajid Nawaz is my favourite Lib Dem.

    For the Tories to become electable they should remove the Cameron clique and replace South East NIMBY's with hardworking immigrants as a detox.

    Give the NIMBY's a few quid to move to Spain, start again.

    I agree. I'd rather have Priti Patel or Kwasi Kwarteng as leader than Cameron or Osborne.
  • NeilNeil Posts: 7,983
    @tim

    The Independent as on the ball as usual with the case everyone else reported the day Labour held its vote on this reform.
  • old_labourold_labour Posts: 3,238
    Article here.
    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/welfare-scandal-subject-to-the-bedroom-tax--even-if-the-room-is-used-for-a-kidney-dialysis-machine-8947883.html
    tim said:

    @SkyNews: INDEPENDENT FRONT: 'Forced to pay the bedroom tax-even if the room is used for a kidney dialysis machine.' #skypapers http://t.co/X8d1LkcYwi

  • Scott_PScott_P Posts: 51,453
    @JasonGroves1: Labour confirms Ed Miliband held a private meeting with 'Crystal Methodist' bank boss Paul Flowers in his Commons office last year
  • JonathanDJonathanD Posts: 2,400
    tim said:

    Neil said:

    @tim

    The Independent as on the ball as usual with the case everyone else reported the day Labour held its vote on this reform.

    I assume he's done an interview, the details were sketchy besides Malcolm Rifkind supporting him.

    The details are still sketchy. A shame the Independent couldn't manage a photo of this room size dialysis machine.

    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/welfare-scandal-subject-to-the-bedroom-tax--even-if-the-room-is-used-for-a-kidney-dialysis-machine-8947883.html
  • Morris_DancerMorris_Dancer Posts: 62,891
    Good evening, everyone.

    Link 18 reminds me of a handy way of remembering the armament of a Roman soldier. In his right hand he has his gladius (also slang for 'penis'), his one-handed, 18-22" thrusting implement. In his other, his scutum. He's happiest when his 'penis' is inserted in his vagina (sheath for the gladius, and where we get the word from).

    As for 16, if people commit such vile acts that they're incarcerated they lose the right to vote. It's fair and just.
  • DavidLDavidL Posts: 56,376
    Surprised there was not a reference to this piece: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/economics/10457384/UK-growing-at-fastest-rate-in-developed-world-says-OECD.html

    Is Tim really that sensitive?
  • RichardNabaviRichardNabavi Posts: 3,413
    Poor tim, the disappointment must really hurt. It must have seemed like Christmas had come early today, with stories about 'Coke-sniffing banker and his political connections', 'Ex-government minister pleads guilty to criminal charges of dishonesty', and 'Party leader foams at the mouth on Sky News'.

    No wonder he's reduced to recycling anecdotes from a Labour MP.
  • CarolaCarola Posts: 1,805
    This Ford dude is... I mean, this whole situation is... *doesn't have the words*

    'The Toronto mayor apologised again on Thursday for making an obscene outburst on live television while denying he had offered oral sex to a female staff member.

    He had been responding to allegations in court papers that he had also driven drunk, used racially abusive language, threatened staff and consorted with an alleged prostitute.'

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-24990650#TWEET958990
  • TheSheikofShakeTheSheikofShake Posts: 83
    We're back on Labour's invention of Welfare By Bedroom , are we?

    The one that would have penalised anyone diagnosed with a new need for kidney dialysis from 2008.



  • RichardNabaviRichardNabavi Posts: 3,413
    tim said:

    Remind us again of your McBride position re Brown standing down.

    That, if he had carried out illegal activities on behalf of Gordon Brown and of which Brown should have been aware, Brown should have resigned.
  • Tim_BTim_B Posts: 7,669
    Sebastian Vettel anagrams to -

    Enviable stat set

    Beaten slave tits
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 123,759
    edited November 2013
    Looks like The Crystal Methodist did drugs with Rent Boys according to the Front Page of The Sun
  • RichardNabaviRichardNabavi Posts: 3,413
    tim said:

    I thought you might have refined it.
    And the original?

    The original was the same.
  • AlastairMeeksAlastairMeeks Posts: 30,340
    Story 19 could be a general election loser for the Tories. Shades of Christine O'Donnell.
  • RichardNabaviRichardNabavi Posts: 3,413
    OK, I've clearly led a too-sheltered life.

    What on earth does the Sun headline mean and how does one parse it?
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 123,759
    edited November 2013
    RichardNabavi said:

    OK, I've clearly led a too-sheltered life.

    What on earth does the Sun headline mean and how does one parse it?

    Is based on this

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sorted_for_E's_&_Wizz

    I'd like to explain further, but I fear it may irrevocably shock and alter your purity and innocence.
  • AlastairMeeksAlastairMeeks Posts: 30,340
    You can see that the Sun is enjoying this story. It's probably the most important of the moment for public attention, though it's unlikely to change many votes.
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 123,759
    antifrank said:

    Story 19 could be a general election loser for the Tories. Shades of Christine O'Donnell.

    Indeed, there's a reason why my heart skips a beat when my wife asks to borrow my laptop or iPad.

    As someone's wife once put it, Everytime I wanna shop online and I start typing Amazon, amazingcollegesluts.com pops up.
  • RichardNabaviRichardNabavi Posts: 3,413
    TheScreamingEagles said:

    RichardNabavi said:

    OK, I've clearly led a too-sheltered life.

    What on earth does the Sun headline mean and how does one parse it?

    Is based on this

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sorted_for_E's_&_Wizz

    I'd like to explain further, but I fear it may irrevocably shock and alter your purity and innocence.
    Don't worry, I'm pretty unshockable, except when it comes to the misuse of apostrophes and dissing of Jane Austen.
  • TheSheikofShakeTheSheikofShake Posts: 83
    Guests on The Agenda who clearly don't understand teh differenc ebetween a deficit and a debt.....

    Poor old Balls, really uncomfortable for him.
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 123,759
    antifrank said:

    You can see that the Sun is enjoying this story. It's probably the most important of the moment for public attention, though it's unlikely to change many votes.

    I feel sorry for the rent boy.

    How low must his self esteem be right now, that The Crystal Methodist only wanted to use him for drugs and not sex?
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 123,759
    RichardNabavi said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    RichardNabavi said:

    OK, I've clearly led a too-sheltered life.

    What on earth does the Sun headline mean and how does one parse it?

    Is based on this

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sorted_for_E's_&_Wizz

    I'd like to explain further, but I fear it may irrevocably shock and alter your purity and innocence.
    Don't worry, I'm pretty unshockable, except when it comes to the misuse of apostrophes and dissing of Jane Austen.
    And the new definition of literally!
  • RichardNabaviRichardNabavi Posts: 3,413
    TheScreamingEagles said:

    And the new definition of literally!

    That was more despair than shock..
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 123,759
    RichardNabavi said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    And the new definition of literally!

    That was more despair than shock..
    I'm still in despair.
  • TheSheikofShakeTheSheikofShake Posts: 83
    Skewered Balls on ITV.....
  • RichardNabaviRichardNabavi Posts: 3,413
    tim said:


    Dave is doing the porn husband wife thing as a way of leveraging Sam Cam into the election campaign, he was always going to ease her in, his pollsters tell him the family stuff is the only bit of his persona voters relate to.
    It explains the use of kids relentlessly too.

    Yes, tim.

    Presumably it explains these as well:

    http://www.labour.org.uk/internet-companies-access

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/labour/10114845/Labour-challenges-David-Cameron-to-bring-in-anti-pornography-laws.html

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2349927/Miliband-reveals-fears-sons-aged-access-porn-smartphones.html

  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 123,759
    I really wish I was guest editor at the moment.

    The morning thread would be headlined, is Balls deep in trouble?

    Return former Co-op bank chief’s £50,000, Ed Balls told

    Shadow chancellor facing calls to return £50,000 donation linked to former bank chief Paul Flowers, who has been accused of buying class A drugs.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/labour/10458646/Return-former-Co-op-bank-chiefs-50000-Ed-Balls-told.html
  • john_zimsjohn_zims Posts: 3,399
    @Tim

    'IDS lying isn't a news story is it?'

    Ed dribbling on live TV is.
  • DavidBrackenburyDavidBrackenbury Posts: 357
    Good evening everyone,
    I have de-lurked! I used to post a lot some years ago and certainly times are interesting as the Chinese would say.
    Not a good day for Labour, but we will see how much damage this does to their polls. Not a lot, I suspect, but these things take time.
    As far as polling changes are concerned, large alterations do happen sometimes, especially when the voters are in a "You're all the same" mindset. Remember DC's speech to the Tort Conference after he became Leader?
    Looking forward to chatting with you all, though it will take some time to get to 13,000 + posts!!
  • OllyTOllyT Posts: 5,061
    TheScreamingEagles said:

    I really wish I was guest editor at the moment.

    The morning thread would be headlined, is Balls deep in trouble?

    Return former Co-op bank chief’s £50,000, Ed Balls told

    Shadow chancellor facing calls to return £50,000 donation linked to former bank chief Paul Flowers, who has been accused of buying class A drugs.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/labour/10458646/Return-former-Co-op-bank-chiefs-50000-Ed-Balls-told.html

    You might also want to take a look at tonight's lead article in the Huffington Post that is linking a £420,000 donation to the Tories with the Sri Lankan President. Given Cameron's latest pronouncements on Sri Lanka I would have thought that story has limitless embarrassment potential
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 123,759
    OllyT said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    I really wish I was guest editor at the moment.

    The morning thread would be headlined, is Balls deep in trouble?

    Return former Co-op bank chief’s £50,000, Ed Balls told

    Shadow chancellor facing calls to return £50,000 donation linked to former bank chief Paul Flowers, who has been accused of buying class A drugs.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/labour/10458646/Return-former-Co-op-bank-chiefs-50000-Ed-Balls-told.html

    You might also want to take a look at tonight's lead article in the Huffington Post that is linking a £420,000 donation to the Tories with the Sri Lankan President. Given Cameron's latest pronouncements on Sri Lanka I would have thought that story has limitless embarrassment potential
    But not limitless potential for innuendo that Balls Deep in trouble does.
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 130,255
    Story19 Has shades of 'back to basics' all over it, how many Tory MPs do you believe watch porn?
  • fitalassfitalass Posts: 4,562
    SNP trying to beat Gordon Brown's 'I have ended boom and bust' claim.
    Twitter
    Laura Kuenssberg ‏@ITVLauraK 4h
    Swinney tells me economic levers Indy scot would have would create such growth that no need for cuts or new taxes
  • DavidBrackenburyDavidBrackenbury Posts: 357
    Olly T - Interesting story. If it is true, it is interesting that DC has made such a nuisance of himself with the Sri Lankan Government in attending a Summit arranged by the last Government...
  • foxinsoxukfoxinsoxuk Posts: 23,548
    http://www.nytimes.com/2010/07/05/opinion/05moss.html?_r=0

    It seems Nighthawks is not a real place.

    Just a virtual world of insomniacs, and people in different timezones
  • AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 29,395
    edited November 2013
    Konnie Huq on Blockbusters in 1992:

    www.youtube.com/watch?v=wm-6XaHHZW0&amp

    Her older sister Rupa has recently been selected as Labour candidate for Ealing Central & Acton.
  • old_labourold_labour Posts: 3,238
    We must build on countryside so young can own homes, says Cameron: PM accuses grassroots Tories who oppose new rules of putting own interests before the country
  • NickPalmerNickPalmer Posts: 21,783
    DavidBrackenbury said:

    Good evening everyone,
    I have de-lurked! I used to post a lot some years ago and certainly times are interesting as the Chinese would say.
    Not a good day for Labour, but we will see how much damage this does to their polls. Not a lot, I suspect, but these things take time.
    As far as polling changes are concerned, large alterations do happen sometimes, especially when the voters are in a "You're all the same" mindset. Remember DC's speech to the Tort Conference after he became Leader?
    Looking forward to chatting with you all, though it will take some time to get to 13,000 + posts!!

    Welcome back!

  • OldKingColeOldKingCole Posts: 35,693
    AndyJS said:

    tim said:

    David Skelton is my favourite Tory.
    Maajid Nawaz is my favourite Lib Dem.

    For the Tories to become electable they should remove the Cameron clique and replace South East NIMBY's with hardworking immigrants as a detox.

    Give the NIMBY's a few quid to move to Spain, start again.

    I agree. I'd rather have Priti Patel or Kwasi Kwarteng as leader than Cameron or Osborne.
    Hmm. As one of PP's constituents I'd say it's a hard choice!
  • fitalassfitalass Posts: 4,562
    I am with David Cameron on this. I moved to a lovely wee rural village in Aberdeenshire years ago. I still remember the excitement in the receptionist's voice when I phoned the village school to arrange a visit for our family, it got even more excited when I told her that I was hoping to place three children with them. The school was struggling with declining pupil numbers, and this seriously dictates teacher levels and funding. Having now been settled here for a few years, I was totally in favour of the two new housing projects proposed a few years back just as the big recession hit, and I now hope that with the upturn they will finally go ahead. We nearly lost our local Post Office, but a new owner was found and the village shopping area is now looking up.

    We don't just need to build in the countryside to ease our housing pressures, we need to do so to support and strengthen our local communities so they grow and protect our rural villages and their amenities. I have no time for retires/urban rich who want to block out change or growth to protect their piece of the countryside, especially if it means that the only affordable homes are those of second home owners who benefit from their little piece of the UK countryside while failing to contribute to its vital daily economy and amenities.
    old_labour said:

    We must build on countryside so young can own homes, says Cameron: PM accuses grassroots Tories who oppose new rules of putting own interests before the country

  • AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 29,395
    David Cameron is starting to get on my nerves with his lectures about what husbands and wives ought to be discussing with each other. He ought to mind his own business IMO.
  • fitalassfitalass Posts: 4,562
    What?! I must have missed your concerns or understanding of Cameron's own experience as a father of a severely disabled child who died suddenly at a tragically young age! I suspect that you are not married, and nor have you ever faced that kind of relationship changing burden that might have influenced your whole outlook on life as a result. Here is a hint, when the going gets tough, if a couple don't talk or support each other openly they will struggle.
    AndyJS said:

    David Cameron is starting to get on my nerves with his lectures about what husbands and wives ought to be discussing with each other. He ought to mind his own business IMO.

  • JohnLoonyJohnLoony Posts: 1,790
    (OT) In this week of momentous anniversaries (Doctor Who, Aldous Huxley etc.), I have been thing one or two "What-if?" questions of how history might have been profoundly different if small details were changed.

    (a) History might have been completely different if Lee Harvey Oswald had gone "Boing! Boing! Boing!" instead of "Bang! Bang! Bang!". If Lee Harvey Oswald had had a fanatical interest in SpaceHoppers instead of Cuba and Marxism, history might have been different.

    (b) If Kennedy in Berlin had said "Ich bin ein Armadillo" or if Reagan had said "Mr Gorbachev, tear down this ostrich" history would be different.

    (c) I am speaking to you from the Cabinet room at 10 Downing Street. This morning, the British Ambassador in Berlin handed the German government a final note stating that unless we heard from them by 11 o'clock that they were prepared at once to withdraw their troops from Poland, we would have an extra slice of lemon sponge cake for afternoon tea. I have to tell you now that no such undertaking has been received, and that consequently we may get slightly less hungry by suppertime.
  • FinancierFinancier Posts: 3,916
    Latest YouGov / The Sun results 18th November - Con 32%, Lab 39%, LD 11%, UKIP 12%; APP -26
  • FinancierFinancier Posts: 3,916
    Latest YouGov / The Sun results 18th November - Con 32%, Lab 39%, LD 11%, UKIP 12%; APP -26
  • FinancierFinancier Posts: 3,916
    Latest YouGov / The Sun results 18th November - Con 32%, Lab 39%, LD 11%, UKIP 12%; APP -26
  • compouter1compouter1 Posts: 642
    Labour on 39% and have a 7% lead. Does anyone have the subsection showing a larger percentage prefer David Camerons cupcakes to Red Ed which means the headline voting percentage can be dismissed?
  • foxinsoxukfoxinsoxuk Posts: 23,548
    I agree. There is a lot of support for new housing in villages, if the development is of a type likely to benefit the community. There is much less support for high density developments that are out of character. It is right that local communities have control.
    fitalass said:

    I am with David Cameron on this. I moved to a lovely wee rural village in Aberdeenshire years ago. I still remember the excitement in the receptionist's voice when I phoned the village school to arrange a visit for our family, it got even more excited when I told her that I was hoping to place three children with them. The school was struggling with declining pupil numbers, and this seriously dictates teacher levels and funding. Having now been settled here for a few years, I was totally in favour of the two new housing projects proposed a few years back just as the big recession hit, and I now hope that with the upturn they will finally go ahead. We nearly lost our local Post Office, but a new owner was found and the village shopping area is now looking up.

    We don't just need to build in the countryside to ease our housing pressures, we need to do so to support and strengthen our local communities so they grow and protect our rural villages and their amenities. I have no time for retires/urban rich who want to block out change or growth to protect their piece of the countryside, especially if it means that the only affordable homes are those of second home owners who benefit from their little piece of the UK countryside while failing to contribute to its vital daily economy and amenities.

    old_labour said:

    We must build on countryside so young can own homes, says Cameron: PM accuses grassroots Tories who oppose new rules of putting own interests before the country

  • CarlottaVanceCarlottaVance Posts: 60,422
    Miliband's latest balls up goes wider than Westminster
    Elections are not won or lost in Westminster but what happens in Westminster rarely stays in Westminster. The media do not determine elections, nor do voters base their views on what they read in the newspapers. These are two of the facts of political life.

    Nevertheless, impressions formed in Westminster have a habit of leaking out into the country. What the media covers - and how it is covered - helps inform the public's general impression of and views about any political figure. Sometimes these impressions are based on seemingly trivial details.

    http://www.gq-magazine.co.uk/comment/articles/2013-11/19/ed-miliband-ed-balls-nightmare-labour-party
  • EasterrossEasterross Posts: 1,915
    Just watched Laura Sandys on SKY News with Eamonn Holmes. The woman is like an eccentric maiden aunt who only gets allowed out on her own at Christmas. In short she is bonkers but seems incredibly likeable. A contest between her and grumpy Mr UKIP at the GE would be fun to see.
  • EasterrossEasterross Posts: 1,915
    Wakened up to a heavy frost and light covering of snow this morning. Definitely enough of a covering for the South of England to grind to a halt.
  • CarlottaVanceCarlottaVance Posts: 60,422
    Easterross said:

    Wakened up to a heavy frost and light covering of snow this morning. Definitely enough of a covering for the South of England to grind to a halt.

    Ha! The southern Englísh are amateurs when it comes to chaos caused by trivial quantities of snow!

    SNOW and icy roads disrupted travel early this morning.
    During the night 2mm of snow fell, leading to some bus cancellations and minor delays to outbound flights.

    http://www.thisisguernsey.com/latest/2010/01/05/traffic-hit-as-snow-strikes/
  • AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 29,395
    Easterross said:

    Just watched Laura Sandys on SKY News with Eamonn Holmes. The woman is like an eccentric maiden aunt who only gets allowed out on her own at Christmas. In short she is bonkers but seems incredibly likeable. A contest between her and grumpy Mr UKIP at the GE would be fun to see.

    I suppose the question in Thanet at the next election will be who is more Churchillian: Nigel Farage or Churchill's granddaughter.
  • malcolmgmalcolmg Posts: 44,968
    JonathanD said:

    tim said:

    Neil said:

    @tim

    The Independent as on the ball as usual with the case everyone else reported the day Labour held its vote on this reform.

    I assume he's done an interview, the details were sketchy besides Malcolm Rifkind supporting him.

    The details are still sketchy. A shame the Independent couldn't manage a photo of this room size dialysis machine.

    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/welfare-scandal-subject-to-the-bedroom-tax--even-if-the-room-is-used-for-a-kidney-dialysis-machine-8947883.html
    No matter the actual size of the machine , you would also have lots of bits and pieces that go with it. You would not want all that kit lying about your lounge or to have to sit in the lounge with your family hooked up to it. To any human being it would seem reasonable to have a room where you can go to have your dialysis, unless you are a Tory.
  • foxinsoxukfoxinsoxuk Posts: 23,548
    Home haemodialysis machines are compact, unobtrusive and quiet. The original ones in the sixties would require a room. Modern ones fit comfortably on a sidetable. See the picture in this link:
    http://www.healthworldnet.com/articles/heads-or-tails/dialysis,-there’s-no-place-like-home/

    Home haemodialysis typically takes 4-7 hours depending on the regime. patients often hook up while watching TV in an evening (or perhaps surfing PB?). in many ways the living room is the ideal spot.

    It no longer requires a seperate room; technology has moved on.
    malcolmg said:

    JonathanD said:

    tim said:

    Neil said:

    @tim

    The Independent as on the ball as usual with the case everyone else reported the day Labour held its vote on this reform.

    I assume he's done an interview, the details were sketchy besides Malcolm Rifkind supporting him.

    The details are still sketchy. A shame the Independent couldn't manage a photo of this room size dialysis machine.

    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/welfare-scandal-subject-to-the-bedroom-tax--even-if-the-room-is-used-for-a-kidney-dialysis-machine-8947883.html
    No matter the actual size of the machine , you would also have lots of bits and pieces that go with it. You would not want all that kit lying about your lounge or to have to sit in the lounge with your family hooked up to it. To any human being it would seem reasonable to have a room where you can go to have your dialysis, unless you are a Tory.
  • CarlottaVanceCarlottaVance Posts: 60,422
    The sisterhood gets it wrong:

    Qatar's accidental vagina stadium is most gratifying
    The Qatari stadium's resemblance to a woman's private parts may be unintentional, but I for one applaud it. Perhaps the bigwigs behind the design (no doubt all male) should embrace this so-called faux pas and rebrand it as a deliberate nod towards the increasingly liberal Qatari policies concerning women in sport.

    The architect is a lady..."..
  • malcolmgmalcolmg Posts: 44,968
    foxinsoxuk said:

    Home haemodialysis machines are compact, unobtrusive and quiet. The original ones in the sixties would require a room. Modern ones fit comfortably on a sidetable. See the picture in this link:
    http://www.healthworldnet.com/articles/heads-or-tails/dialysis,-there’s-no-place-like-home/

    Home haemodialysis typically takes 4-7 hours depending on the regime. patients often hook up while watching TV in an evening (or perhaps surfing PB?). in many ways the living room is the ideal spot.

    It no longer requires a seperate room; technology has moved on.

    malcolmg said:

    JonathanD said:

    tim said:

    Neil said:

    @tim

    The Independent as on the ball as usual with the case everyone else reported the day Labour held its vote on this reform.

    I assume he's done an interview, the details were sketchy besides Malcolm Rifkind supporting him.

    The details are still sketchy. A shame the Independent couldn't manage a photo of this room size dialysis machine.

    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/welfare-scandal-subject-to-the-bedroom-tax--even-if-the-room-is-used-for-a-kidney-dialysis-machine-8947883.html
    No matter the actual size of the machine , you would also have lots of bits and pieces that go with it. You would not want all that kit lying about your lounge or to have to sit in the lounge with your family hooked up to it. To any human being it would seem reasonable to have a room where you can go to have your dialysis, unless you are a Tory.
    So you think it is perfectly fair to force people to pay if they want their dialysis in peace and quiet and not forced to do it their family lounge , regardless of circumstances , young children etc etc.
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