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    dr_spyndr_spyn Posts: 11,289
    Two of the three schools I attended have been knocked down or rebuilt. The other was closed.
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    AveryLPAveryLP Posts: 7,815
    Roger said:

    @Tim

    "Is there a league table of public schools somewhere, not in exam results, obviously that counts for sod all, I'm talking how they see each other."

    Without joking Millfield used to judge public schools by the standard of their sports team particularly rugby. Because Millfield used to offer scholarships to all the best players from the Welsh grammar schools (JPR Williams John Williams Garath Edwards all played for them) Millfield regularly beat all the public schools by ridiculous scores.

    Only the Welsh Grammar schools could give them a game. Eton wouldn't play them at all. It was always announced at the beginning of the winter term that Eton had "FIXTURE PROBLEMS" which we were all required to laugh at. Infact because we weren't members of the Public Schools association they wouldn't play us. No one believed it. Marlborough took their punishment though

    The Millfield-Marlborough Rugby match was regarded as our toughest fixture, In the rare years we won that team went into the pantheon of fame.
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    SimonStClareSimonStClare Posts: 7,976
    SeanT said:

    SeanT said:

    Scott_P said:

    Oh no. HIGNFY just did a joke about Ed's wife. Cue a week of outrage and letters to the editor. Or not

    ]

    Back from the pub, I happened across HIGNFY tonight, for the first time in years.

    Ohmyword. Was it always this unfunny? I hope not, but jeez it's just desperate now. Bunch of rich middle aged fat people pretending to be daring and radical, interspersed with the odd forced sycophantic laugh from the audience.

    Awful. Literally cringe-worthy. And this, again, is the glorious BBC of which we are meant to be so proud.

    There is more humour (leftwing but clever) in 15 seconds of the Colbert Report, and I can watch that without having to pay a poll tax.
    It's sort of gone that way I'm afraid, indeed i was thinking similar stuff on the whole of british comedy this morning. It's just predicatble and not that funny, some of the R4 stuff is truly dire, the best laugh on R4 remains I'm sorry I haven't clue which is staffed by a bunch of pensioners pre alternative comedy. The rest of BBC output isn't much better, most of the funny stuff comes from the States these days, home stuff is just turgid and repetitive.
    You've convinced me. I'm gonna do a blog on the Death of British Comedy. Just need to find a way in.

    Basically I'm a-gonna HATE on the BBC.

    One of my drinking pals today is a highly cultured lefty- producer of TV documentaries - who has gone from defending the BBC at all costs to absolutely loathing it, and he doesn't mind who knows.

    As we all should. It is culturally poisoning the entire country. I now see it as a measure of basic political intelligence: if you still support the BBC as it is, license fee and all, then you are a f*ckwit.
    SeanT, not sure if you saw this by David Mitchell who recently defended 'cheap' comedy panel shows against criticism by claiming they are wittier than sitcoms. It might provide the angle you are looking for.

    Now I actually like Mitchell, but like a small number of comedians, he appears omnipresent and doing the same old shtick they’ve done for the past decade.

    Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2433036/David-Mitchell-defends-cheap-comedy-panel-shows-criticism-claiming-wittier-sitcoms.html#ixzz2gn9lo6GE
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    Scott_PScott_P Posts: 51,453
    tim said:


    Wouldn't it be better if you

    stopped obsessively posting every time I do?

    Why not try it for a week? Day? Hour?
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    Mick_PorkMick_Pork Posts: 6,530
    Toms said:

    Speaking of the BBC, I rather hate it for its attempts by every sneaky and dishonest means they can think of to push on us DAB radio, a 20 year outmoded digital system that is patently inferior in sound and conveneince to ordinary analogue fm radio.

    Internet radios are quite entertaining it has to be said. Hardly the only platform of course and I tend to agree with you about FM. For those fond of technology I suspect the new steam boxes might be surprisingly popular if they can deliver. A tiny inexpensive and unobtrusive PC that plugs into your TV could do any number of useful things.
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    William Ellis, Highgate Road, NW5. The last ILEA grammar. Turned comprehensive when I was in the 4th year. Toby joined in the 6th form.
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    TykejohnnoTykejohnno Posts: 7,362
    Posting about BBC bias,what will one of they main stories be tomorrow,shall we guess ?

    maybe this -

    http://www.politicshome.com/uk/article/85982/the_independent_saturday_5th_october_2013.html
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    JosiasJessopJosiasJessop Posts: 39,061
    As I've said passim, very mixed schooling: public, state, state, public.

    All are still going strong. One of the state primaries was right next door to the house my parents built. I had a house key, so the old left-my-homework-at-home excuse did not really work. :-)

    They were all good in their own way, but it is amazing how varied schools can be, even in the same sector. One of my schools was in Staffordshire, whilst many of my friends went to school in Derbyshire. The difference in cultures - uniforms, class times, and even curriculum to a certain extent, was startling.
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    Scott_PScott_P Posts: 51,453
    Lord Sainsbury on Newsnight

    @janemerrick23: Isn't progressive capitalism just Blairism? @johnrentoul? #newsnight #nothingnewunderthesun
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    CarolaCarola Posts: 1,805
    dr_spyn said:

    Two of the three schools I attended have been knocked down or rebuilt. The other was closed.

    Both of my schools have been knocked down/developed. I did an on route memory stop at the site of my infant/middle school on a visit home some years back when it was part demolished. There was a bloke there collecting the old bricks to build a garden wall. Turned out he was in my class.
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    AlastairMeeksAlastairMeeks Posts: 30,340
    tim is not obliged to give personal details.
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    TomsToms Posts: 2,478
    edited October 2013
    Mick_Pork said:

    Toms said:

    Speaking of the BBC, I rather hate it for its attempts by every sneaky and dishonest means they can think of to push on us DAB radio, a 20 year outmoded digital system that is patently inferior in sound and conveneince to ordinary analogue fm radio.

    Internet radios are quite entertaining it has to be said. Hardly the only platform of course and I tend to agree with you about FM. For those fond of technology I suspect the new steam boxes might be surprisingly popular if they can deliver. A tiny inexpensive and unobtrusive PC that plugs into your TV could do any number of useful things.
    Internet digital reception can have excellent fidelity, but not DAB as currently used. Also, with regards to FM, I find the idea of *wireless* reception elegant.

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    AveryLPAveryLP Posts: 7,815

    William Ellis, Highgate Road, NW5. The last ILEA grammar. Turned comprehensive when I was in the 4th year. Toby joined in the 6th form.

    Wasn't that the school whose headmaster had an unnatural interest in flogging?

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    JosiasJessopJosiasJessop Posts: 39,061
    Toms said:

    Speaking of the BBC, I rather hate it for its attempts by every sneaky and dishonest means they can think of to push on us DAB radio, a 20 year outmoded digital system that is patently inferior in sound and conveneince to ordinary analogue fm radio.

    I love DAB radio. Then again, I've made a little money from it, and I met Mrs J whilst working on it. Our eyes first met over a warm signal generator. :-)

    Needless to say, I disagree with everything you say above, and can say that from perhaps a position of technical authority. But this probably isn't the place to go into the arguments that have been discussed on specialist audio forums for the last fifteen years.
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    CarlottaVanceCarlottaVance Posts: 59,787

    Do you remember people on here hammering Labour over leaving our troops in Afghanistan under-protected and dangerously exposed:

    How many dead on Labour's watch?
    Not that anyone is interested, but its 289 vs 155.....tho I'm impressed by the Labour supporters washing their consciences clean by pointing to the shortcomings that sadly led to two American deaths under the coalition....
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    Scott_PScott_P Posts: 51,453
    Ed Miliband lacks statesmanship, is bland and leaves voters unsure about what he stands for, according to a Times/YouGov focus group of swing voters in key marginal seats.

    The Labour leader’s decision to take on the big energy companies and to pick a fight with the Daily Mail appears to have done little to clear up confusion over the type of Prime Minister he would be. This suggests that his two big gambles in the past fortnight have not fundamentally altered the political landscape.

    He remains “too weak to be a good leader”, comes across as “serious but bland” and “sounds good now but if he got into power I’m not sure he could deliver it”, according to the three members of the panel who voted Labour in the last election.
    http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/news/politics/article3887330.ece
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    Mick_PorkMick_Pork Posts: 6,530
    Toms said:

    Mick_Pork said:

    Toms said:

    Speaking of the BBC, I rather hate it for its attempts by every sneaky and dishonest means they can think of to push on us DAB radio, a 20 year outmoded digital system that is patently inferior in sound and conveneince to ordinary analogue fm radio.

    Internet radios are quite entertaining it has to be said. Hardly the only platform of course and I tend to agree with you about FM. For those fond of technology I suspect the new steam boxes might be surprisingly popular if they can deliver. A tiny inexpensive and unobtrusive PC that plugs into your TV could do any number of useful things.
    Internet digital reception can have excellent fidelity, but not DAB as currently used. Also, I find the idea of *wireless* reception elegant.

    Quite right. DAB is a bit of a disaster and was even worse in it's first fumbling expensive attempts. It has improved some but I too shall favour FM as long as I can.
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    CarlottaVanceCarlottaVance Posts: 59,787
    edited October 2013
    Scott_P said:

    according to the three members of the panel who voted Labour in the last election.

    They may well be right, but perhaps it would be more informative if there were more of them?

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    AveryLPAveryLP Posts: 7,815
    edited October 2013
    tim said:

    Posting about BBC bias,what will one of they main stories be tomorrow,shall we guess ?

    maybe this -

    http://www.politicshome.com/uk/article/85982/the_independent_saturday_5th_october_2013.html


    To be fair ( and for the most part I think you are pretty fair, and spot things like the bedroom tax earlier that the PB Tory mainstream) one thing you haven;t seen on here since the election is a glorying in troop deaths to knock the govt, that stopped very suddenly in May 2010.

    tim

    The reason for that is more due to the rate of casualties since 2001. Here are the figures for UK fatalities in Afghanistan:
    2001     0
    2002 3
    2003 0
    2004 1
    2005 1
    2006 39
    2007 42
    2008 51
    2009 108
    2010 103
    2011 46
    2012 44
    2013 6

    Total 444
    Brown's 2007-2010 Premiership bore the brunt of the fatalities.
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    It's Friday night and, tragically, I am watching a session from the Tory party conference on start-ups and SMEs being chaired by Michael Fallon. It's actually pretty interesting. Am I the only person in Britain watching this?
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    RogerRoger Posts: 18,894
    @Foxy

    "Grimesbottom Bog....."

    Sounds like a Yorkshire holiday resort
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    RodCrosbyRodCrosby Posts: 7,737
    edited October 2013
    Skewl?
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/St_Mary's_College,_Crosby
    Christian Brothers, "rote learning and corporal punishment", "the carrot and the stick - without the carrot..."

    One of the last 11-plus boys (1976), I was also offered a place at our arch rivals down the road.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Merchant_Taylors'_School,_Crosby

    Judge for yourselves which is the better school...
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    edmundintokyoedmundintokyo Posts: 17,151
    OT, Democrats seem to have found a way to get a vote on funding the government, but it'll take a week. Apparently once a bill has sat around for a month without going anywhere, a majority in the house can vote to vote on it. The continuing resolution bill hasn't sat around for that long, but they reckon they can use the same trick the Senate uses when it wants to create spending bills (which the founders thought only the House should be able to do) where you take an unrelated existing bill that you had lying around waiting forlornly for a vote and amend it to remove all the original text and replace it with your new text.

    http://talkingpointsmemo.com/dc/house-democrats-propose-hail-mary-strategy-for-ending-shutdown
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    Mick_PorkMick_Pork Posts: 6,530

    Toms said:

    Speaking of the BBC, I rather hate it for its attempts by every sneaky and dishonest means they can think of to push on us DAB radio, a 20 year outmoded digital system that is patently inferior in sound and conveneince to ordinary analogue fm radio.

    I love DAB radio. Then again, I've made a little money from it, and I met Mrs J whilst working on it. Our eyes first met over a warm signal generator. :-)

    Needless to say, I disagree with everything you say above, and can say that from perhaps a position of technical authority. But this probably isn't the place to go into the arguments that have been discussed on specialist audio forums for the last fifteen years.
    Audiophiles in full flow of vehement disagreement could put this place to shame. ;)
    Vinyl enthusiasts in particular have a tenacity some politicians would envy.
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    TomsToms Posts: 2,478
    edited October 2013

    Toms said:

    Speaking of the BBC, I rather hate it for its attempts by every sneaky and dishonest means they can think of to push on us DAB radio, a 20 year outmoded digital system that is patently inferior in sound and conveneince to ordinary analogue fm radio.

    I love DAB radio. Then again, I've made a little money from it, and I met Mrs J whilst working on it. Our eyes first met over a warm signal generator. :-)

    Needless to say, I disagree with everything you say above, and can say that from perhaps a position of technical authority. But this probably isn't the place to go into the arguments that have been discussed on specialist audio forums for the last fifteen years.
    For info as I write this I have two signal generators and oscilloscopes and things lurking on a bench behind me.You're right this isn't the place. But just to say that DAB+ isn't so bad at all. After it's initial broadcasting with DAB the Beeb decided to shove, what was it, seven channels into what their own boffins (they had some then) advised would only handle something like four. I believe it is a case of fidelity and not really one of opinion. And now to bed.

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    MikeSmithsonMikeSmithson Posts: 7,382

    It's Friday night and, tragically, I am watching a session from the Tory party conference on start-ups and SMEs being chaired by Michael Fallon. It's actually pretty interesting. Am I the only person in Britain watching this?

    I am a great fan of Michael Fallon. If he'd been born five years later he'd be serious leadership material.

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    TykejohnnoTykejohnno Posts: 7,362
    tim said:

    Posting about BBC bias,what will one of they main stories be tomorrow,shall we guess ?

    maybe this -

    http://www.politicshome.com/uk/article/85982/the_independent_saturday_5th_october_2013.html


    To be fair ( and for the most part I think you are pretty fair, and spot things like the bedroom tax earlier that the PB Tory mainstream) one thing you haven;t seen on here since the election is a glorying in troop deaths to knock the govt, that stopped very suddenly in May 2010.

    To be fair tim,I not bothered if the bbc go on the story,it's they left of centre bias,I can't stand.

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    TykejohnnoTykejohnno Posts: 7,362

    It's Friday night and, tragically, I am watching a session from the Tory party conference on start-ups and SMEs being chaired by Michael Fallon. It's actually pretty interesting. Am I the only person in Britain watching this?

    I am a great fan of Michael Fallon. If he'd been born five years later he'd be serious leadership material.

    Were you a fan of Cameron when he ran for the tory leadership ?

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    CharlesCharles Posts: 35,758
    edited October 2013
    Roger said:

    @Charles

    "Said the Millfield lad... ;-)"

    Last year the Old Millfield Society asked members if they could send in photos of their year. I sent in an outstanding one of a very popular captain of the rugby team-a friend of mine-being lifted up after winning an important school rugby match.

    It was notably better than any other photos taken of my year and better than most others on the site but they wouldn't use it. He'd been found murdered in an apartment with a seventeen year old girl in the Phillipines a year earlier so the editorial staff found it to be in bad taste.

    So even my fee paying comprehensive had standards.....

    touche.

    The best my school could do was one of the boys who slaughtered the entire nepalese royal family because they refused to let him marry the girl he loved.

    (Although, it's important to stress that I don't believe the official story. My brother was good friends with Dippy - I tend to look at cui bono)
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    CarlottaVanceCarlottaVance Posts: 59,787
    Guido has Mehdi Hasan's letter to Paul Dacre:

    http://order-order.com/2013/10/04/dear-mr-dacre/
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    It's Friday night and, tragically, I am watching a session from the Tory party conference on start-ups and SMEs being chaired by Michael Fallon. It's actually pretty interesting. Am I the only person in Britain watching this?

    I am a great fan of Michael Fallon. If he'd been born five years later he'd be serious leadership material.

    He's very good on this thing. Clearly knows his stuff. Sad to say, you can't imagine a similar session at a Labour conference.

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    TykejohnnoTykejohnno Posts: 7,362

    Guido has Mehdi Hasan's letter to Paul Dacre:

    http://order-order.com/2013/10/04/dear-mr-dacre/

    Now that's funny ;-)
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    CharlesCharles Posts: 35,758

    tim said:

    SeanT said:

    I wonder if Our Friend Tim went to a minor public school.

    Tim?

    If it helps, I'll go first: I went to a bog-standard comp. Aylestone. Hereford.

    tim?


    Bog standard comp

    Snap!

    Slough Grammar
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    Mick_PorkMick_Pork Posts: 6,530
    SeanT said:

    AveryLP said:

    tim said:

    Roger said:

    Interesting that Geordie Greig is an Old Etonian. For all the faults in the public school system and all the iniquities of that sort of education one thing you can say is that generally they abide by a code of behaviour that is completely unknown to a vulgarian oik like Paul Dacre.

    It's definately a step in the right direction that he's likely to take Dacre's job very soon.

    Is Dacre an oik, I thought he was the classic hateful insecure product of a minor public school whose daddy didn't fight in the war.

    Correct, tim.

    But there is a world of difference between Greig's social upbringing and that of Dacre's.

    Greig is about as establishment as you can get without being Royal.

    Dacre is an Enfield son of an aspirant newspaper man.

    Greig is the odd man out in the industry.

    And Roger's social comments are sans-pareil on PB. Much may they continue!

    tim and Avery. Peas in a putrid pod. The mesalliance of the disgusting PB snobs.

    Go on Mike, close the site down. Do it. Why should you provide a platform for these repulsive gargoyles?

    Get rid. My life will be notably improved if I never have to encounter a thought from either of them again.



    For once just say what you mean and stop holding back.

    :)
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    JosiasJessopJosiasJessop Posts: 39,061
    Toms said:

    Toms said:

    Speaking of the BBC, I rather hate it for its attempts by every sneaky and dishonest means they can think of to push on us DAB radio, a 20 year outmoded digital system that is patently inferior in sound and conveneince to ordinary analogue fm radio.

    I love DAB radio. Then again, I've made a little money from it, and I met Mrs J whilst working on it. Our eyes first met over a warm signal generator. :-)

    Needless to say, I disagree with everything you say above, and can say that from perhaps a position of technical authority. But this probably isn't the place to go into the arguments that have been discussed on specialist audio forums for the last fifteen years.
    For info as I write this I have two signal generators and oscilloscopes and things lurking on a bench behind me.You're right this isn't the place. But just to say that DAB+ isn't so bad at all. After it's initial broadcasting with DAB the Beeb decided to shove, what was is, seven channels into what their own boffins (they had some then) advised would only handle something like four. I believe it is a case of fidelity and not really one of opinion.

    Ah, a fellow techie. ;-)

    Yep, DAB+ is better. But DAB+ (and DMB) uses a version of the AAC codec, which was not around when DAB was developed. DAB was standardised in the early 1990s ( I forget exactly when), whilst AAC was developed in the late 1990s.

    It's the old tech story: do you develop something using the best current technology, or wait for something better?

    As you say above, most of the problems people perceive with DAB are little to do with the system itself, but the fact the broadcasters try to squeeze too many services onto each mux. This can only be done by lowering the encoding, and hence quality. 256kb/s should be good enough for most stereo channels.

    Then again, I'm tone deaf, so am probably not the best person to talk about audio quality. ;-)

    The biggest problem I have with DAB is battery life on portables. Given the audio has to be decompressed and go through all sorts of layers such as ECC, it';ll be virtually impossible to get a radio with the same battery life as an equivalent FM radio.
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    TykejohnnoTykejohnno Posts: 7,362

    It's Friday night and, tragically, I am watching a session from the Tory party conference on start-ups and SMEs being chaired by Michael Fallon. It's actually pretty interesting. Am I the only person in Britain watching this?

    I am a great fan of Michael Fallon. If he'd been born five years later he'd be serious leadership material.

    Were you a fan of Cameron when he ran for the tory leadership ?

    And who did you want to win the lib dem leadership - nick clegg ? and then labour leadership,let me guess - ed miliband ?

    Come on mike,am I right on all 3 ?
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    foxinsoxukfoxinsoxuk Posts: 23,548
    edited October 2013
    I moved around a bit as my dad was a salesman, I count seven schools.

    I did my O levels at this one:

    http://www.friendsreunited.co.uk/beecham-fights-the-slander/Memory/7e70c288-5c56-49dd-8c15-a215015969a6

    I had a few run ins with "Uncle Dennis", he was a tough bugger. He taught me English, but he also taught me to hate arbitrary authority, and how to survive and prosper in a world where bullying was rife. This may not have entirely to be his intention, but has served me well for a career in the NHS.


    Roger said:

    @Foxy

    "Grimesbottom Bog....."

    Sounds like a Yorkshire holiday resort

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    MikeSmithsonMikeSmithson Posts: 7,382
    edited October 2013

    It's Friday night and, tragically, I am watching a session from the Tory party conference on start-ups and SMEs being chaired by Michael Fallon. It's actually pretty interesting. Am I the only person in Britain watching this?

    I am a great fan of Michael Fallon. If he'd been born five years later he'd be serious leadership material.

    Were you a fan of Cameron when he ran for the tory leadership ?

    And who did you want to win the lib dem leadership - nick clegg ? and then labour leadership,let me guess - ed miliband ?

    Come on mike,am I right on all 3 ?
    I was on Ed Milliband at 33/1 and made enough from his victory to buy a new car. This was my biggest single political bet success.

    I was on Cameron at the eqivalent of 11/1 and did reasonably well.

    For the Lib Dem leadership I wanted Huhne.

    All this can be found on past post by me on this site.



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    TykejohnnoTykejohnno Posts: 7,362
    edited October 2013

    It's Friday night and, tragically, I am watching a session from the Tory party conference on start-ups and SMEs being chaired by Michael Fallon. It's actually pretty interesting. Am I the only person in Britain watching this?

    I am a great fan of Michael Fallon. If he'd been born five years later he'd be serious leadership material.

    Were you a fan of Cameron when he ran for the tory leadership ?

    And who did you want to win the lib dem leadership - nick clegg ? and then labour leadership,let me guess - ed miliband ?

    Come on mike,am I right on all 3 ?
    I was on Ed Milliband at 33/1 and made enough from his victory to buy a new car. This was my biggest single political bet success.

    I was on Cameron at the eqivalent of 11/1 and did reasonably well.

    For the Lib Dem leadership I wanted Huhne.

    All this can be found on past post by me on this site.



    Nice one mike,I thought you would have being a nick clegg fan at the time of the leadership race.

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    NickPalmerNickPalmer Posts: 21,359
    Scott_P said:

    Ed Miliband lacks statesmanship, is bland and leaves voters unsure about what he stands for... according to the three members of the panel who voted Labour in the last election.
    http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/news/politics/article3887330.ece

    A sample of 3, eh? Poor Scott P!

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    AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 29,395

    It's Friday night and, tragically, I am watching a session from the Tory party conference on start-ups and SMEs being chaired by Michael Fallon. It's actually pretty interesting. Am I the only person in Britain watching this?

    I am a great fan of Michael Fallon. If he'd been born five years later he'd be serious leadership material.

    Were you a fan of Cameron when he ran for the tory leadership ?

    And who did you want to win the lib dem leadership - nick clegg ? and then labour leadership,let me guess - ed miliband ?

    Come on mike,am I right on all 3 ?
    I was on Ed Milliband at 33/1 and made enough from his victory to buy a new car. This was my biggest single political bet success.

    I was on Cameron at the eqivalent of 11/1 and did reasonably well.

    For the Lib Dem leadership I wanted Huhne.

    All this can be found on past post by me on this site.



    Interesting: I had thought the 50/1 Obama bet was the biggest OGH success so far.
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    edmundintokyoedmundintokyo Posts: 17,151
    OT US: Gerrymandering isn't responsible for making Republicans more extreme. It reduces the number of strongly republican seats and increases the number of moderately Republican ones. And many of the moderates who will probably end up voting with the Democrats owe their seats to gerrymandering.


    http://www.newrepublic.com/article/114989/government-shutdown-2013-gerrymandering-isnt-blame
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    DecrepitJohnLDecrepitJohnL Posts: 13,300
    Carola said:

    No where near as bad as Citizen Khan! Has Godfrey Bloom taken up script writing?



    SeanT said:

    Scott_P said:

    Oh no. HIGNFY just did a joke about Ed's wife. Cue a week of outrage and letters to the editor. Or not

    ]

    Back from the pub, I happened across HIGNFY tonight, for the first time in years.

    Ohmyword. Was it always this unfunny? I hope not, but jeez it's just desperate now. Bunch of rich middle aged fat people pretending to be daring and radical, interspersed with the odd forced sycophantic laugh from the audience.

    Awful. Literally cringe-worthy. And this, again, is the glorious BBC of which we are meant to be so proud.

    There is more humour (leftwing but clever) in 15 seconds of the Colbert Report, and I can watch that without having to pay a poll tax.
    I raise you 'Big School'. I watched the first episode. After the first five minutes I was watching it to see if it could possibly get any worse.
    Same here but the consensus from various forums is that the rest of the series was very good.
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    DecrepitJohnLDecrepitJohnL Posts: 13,300
    SeanT said:


    You've convinced me. I'm gonna do a blog on the Death of British Comedy. Just need to find a way in.

    Basically I'm a-gonna HATE on the BBC.

    ITV and Sky comedy, on the other hand ...
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    QuincelQuincel Posts: 3,949
    I've just discovered that Paddy Power are offering odds on the outcome of the Oscar Pistorius trial. Much as I enjoy the thrill of gambling on current events, I can't get past the feeling that there is something dirty about such a bet. Do others here feel this crosses a line, or am I more prudish than most PBers?
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    fitalassfitalass Posts: 4,279
    Daily Mail Comment - Time for an inquiry into the culture and practices of Labour

    "There can be no more serious charge against a politician than that he is guilty of seeking to cover-up the needless deaths of NHS hospital patients and that he then misled Parliament about it.

    This, however, is the hugely disturbing accusation made against Labour’s Andy Burnham, after the release this week of emails relating to his time as Health Secretary."


    "Gordon Brown’s media adviser, Damian McBride, revealed the depth of corruption of a Labour Party in which spin, mendacity, character assassinations and politicisation of the civil service were the order of the day.

    The two men who were closest to Gordon Brown were the now Labour leader Ed Miliband and the shadow chancellor Ed Balls.

    It is inconceivable that they did not know this kind of thing was going on. But the problem with Labour is that it never learns.

    Look at Alastair Campbell, whose dossier of brazen falsehoods was a factor in this country going to a disastrous war, and whose brutal hounding of Dr David Kelly contributed to him taking his own life.

    Campbell – who has spent the past week touring the airwaves venting his spleen at this paper – was the very architect of the Labour lie machine that has so poisoned the well of political discourse in this country.

    That is why the Mail calls today for a major Leveson-style inquiry into the practices and culture of a Labour Party that has done so much to destroy the public’s trust in politics."


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    edmundintokyoedmundintokyo Posts: 17,151
    Quincel said:

    I've just discovered that Paddy Power are offering odds on the outcome of the Oscar Pistorius trial. Much as I enjoy the thrill of gambling on current events, I can't get past the feeling that there is something dirty about such a bet. Do others here feel this crosses a line, or am I more prudish than most PBers?

    Nope, good market, go for it.
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    JohnLoonyJohnLoony Posts: 1,790
    Quincel said:

    I've just discovered that Paddy Power are offering odds on the outcome of the Oscar Pistorius trial. Much as I enjoy the thrill of gambling on current events, I can't get past the feeling that there is something dirty about such a bet. Do others here feel this crosses a line, or am I more prudish than most PBers?

    As it's outside UK jurisdiction, and not subject to a jury trial, it should be OK
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    SMukeshSMukesh Posts: 1,650
    Since Ed has moved left,one could expect the Red graph to be much more shorter than the Blue one in 2015.
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